Ha ha ha Mr. Coles, the reason I am laughing is because I thought the same thing as you do, and as a Total beginner of linux and a user from windoz 3.1 through to Xpop. It was totally strange to me when I installed and started using my SuSE 8.1, and all those adjustments and settings, etc. Exspecially when your use to having the OS do it for you with and without the defects that come with it. As you know some of those defects are still there from the early and people are still waiting for them to get patched up. Linux on the other hand has given the possiblity of thousands of dedicated Linux Users to help solve most of these patches from one day to the next. My solution for you as I have done is to use both systems until you get used to fine tunning your, and I mean your Linux system to do what you want it to do. BTW that is what the Lilo is there for in Linux and not only that you can change the boot squence to what you want. Regards Ralph Robinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Coles Jr." To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: [SLE] Too Difficult Why do I have to fight SuSE to get so darn little done? 1. I want to grip cd's, can't. some crazy problem with my sound card, then get that fixed (on my own no less) and now I can't see the music cds from grip, or koncd, or kscd etc., why? Works fine under Mandrake, RedHat, others, but not SuSE. 2. I want to install on a laptop and run wireless. Can't SuSE doesn't recognize the Wireless NIC or the built in modem. RedHat does, and Mandrake does. 3. I want to install all the "devel" packages so I can compile downloaded apps, like a much newer everybuddy. Takes 1.5 hours to manually select all the devel packages that the "select all Development packages" check box in the install routine DOES NOT SELECT! Why can't "ALL of KDE" really mean "ALL of KDE"? The same for the rest of the package selections? Why do I have to manually go in and select the rest? And in 8.1 THERE IS NO menu option to save the selections to a floppy or file, why not? If you are going to make me spend over 1.5 hours selecting crap that should get selected by default, and least give me an easy way to save my selections so I don't have to do it again! You want to know why people go back to Windoze? This is why. I am tired of fighting my PC to get little to nothing done. I am tired of fighting CUPS to get anything printed, the NIC drivers to stay on the net, etc. and on and on. You should not have to be a Linux expert and spend hours and hours configuring your box to get simple things done. Why do I want to use SuSE? Their update process is the best, I paid $80 for it, and I like the look and feel of the whole distro. but if I can't use it what good is it? Right now, my main machine has some wacked out problem with the video. IF it leave it sitting for about 5 - 10 mins my screen gets horribly scrambled like there is some frequency signal causing problems. I also can't figure out what wierd thing happened to my cdroms. I have a DVD player, and an HP cd burner. Both on the second channel of the ide controller. The DVD ROM is the master, which would make it /dev/hdc and the burner slave, /dev/hdd. the burner shows up as /dev/sr0 ( which I believe is ide-scsi channel 1) But, for some reason if I manuall set me cd player to use /dev/sr0 and put a cd in the dvd rom it plays!!! So I change the cdrecorder to point to sr1, now I can't burn cds!!! -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! "The act of faith is the obedience of the understanding to God revealing, and the product of that is the obedience of the will to God commanding." Matthew Henry, on Romans 1:5 -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com