Re: [SLE] ordering 9.2
On 10:07 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote:
...And I think I might just try 9.1, now that the dust has settled. <G>
Better off ordering 9.2, as it's the MOST heavily "hammered" release yet, but a LOT more hardware support. I'd get the Pro. Upgrade release.
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
That's what someone said about 9.1 ...and I had to revert to 9, ultimately, for most things to work. Weird. ...And not everything is a hardware problem, but rather unsupported hardware, possibly, which boils down to software. -- "Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 10:38, C Hamel wrote:
On 10:07 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote:
...And I think I might just try 9.1, now that the dust has settled. <G>
Better off ordering 9.2, as it's the MOST heavily "hammered" release yet, but a LOT more hardware support. I'd get the Pro. Upgrade release.
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
That's what someone said about 9.1 ...and I had to revert to 9, ultimately, for most things to work. Weird. ...And not everything is a hardware problem, but rather unsupported hardware, possibly, which boils down to software.
Which can probably be further reduced to a lack of an open standard, or making the information (Hey HP!!! are you listening????) on how to get the hardware working available to developers. Mike -- scanjet-3670 windows only hardware
On 17:09 Tue 19 Oct , Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 10:38, C Hamel wrote:
On 10:07 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote:
...And I think I might just try 9.1, now that the dust has settled. <G>
Better off ordering 9.2, as it's the MOST heavily "hammered" release yet, but a LOT more hardware support. I'd get the Pro. Upgrade release.
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
That's what someone said about 9.1 ...and I had to revert to 9, ultimately, for most things to work. Weird. ...And not everything is a hardware problem, but rather unsupported hardware, possibly, which boils down to software.
Which can probably be further reduced to a lack of an open standard, or making the information (Hey HP!!! are you listening????) on how to get the hardware working available to developers.
Mike -- scanjet-3670 windows only hardware
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That certainly *is_a_probem*! Hey, HP... anybody home?? -- "Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio
On Tuesday October 19 2004 11:38 am, C Hamel wrote:
On 10:07 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote:
...And I think I might just try 9.1, now that the dust has settled. <G>
Better off ordering 9.2, as it's the MOST heavily "hammered" release yet, but a LOT more hardware support. I'd get the Pro. Upgrade release.
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
That's what someone said about 9.1 ...and I had to revert to 9, ultimately, for most things to work. Weird. ...And not everything is a hardware problem, but rather unsupported hardware, possibly, which boils down to software.
'Sure does, and I hope that these issues are FINALLY taken care of in 9.2. I've a client with a NEW HP box that I CAN'T get XCDRoast to bun a CD as a user....ONLY as Root. It simply DOES "take an act of Congress" way too often to get CD burners to work properly for users FROM THE GET GO, that is in install "out of the box." Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
*** Reply to message from Fred Miller
Sure does, and I hope that these issues are FINALLY taken care of in 9.2. I've a client with a NEW HP box that I CAN'T get XCDRoast to bun a CD as a user....
Fred, have you tried k3b??? 9.1 had it run "out of the box" w/o needing root privs... IIRC ( I may not, it was a while ago when I installed that stuff) -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit
Have you gone to setup in Xcdroast to allow users to burn cds. Generally xcdroast only allows root to do it. There is an option to allow different users to do it. You need to be root first to enable it. Once you do it, xcdroast can be used by anyone. Fred Miller wrote:
On Tuesday October 19 2004 11:38 am, C Hamel wrote:
On 10:07 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote:
...And I think I might just try 9.1, now that the dust has settled. <G>
Better off ordering 9.2, as it's the MOST heavily "hammered" release yet, but a LOT more hardware support. I'd get the Pro. Upgrade release.
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
That's what someone said about 9.1 ...and I had to revert to 9, ultimately, for most things to work. Weird. ...And not everything is a hardware problem, but rather unsupported hardware, possibly, which boils down to software.
'Sure does, and I hope that these issues are FINALLY taken care of in 9.2. I've a client with a NEW HP box that I CAN'T get XCDRoast to bun a CD as a user....ONLY as Root. It simply DOES "take an act of Congress" way too often to get CD burners to work properly for users FROM THE GET GO, that is in install "out of the box."
Fred
-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org
On Tuesday October 19 2004 9:17 pm, Joseph Loo wrote:
Have you gone to setup in Xcdroast to allow users to burn cds. Generally xcdroast only allows root to do it. There is an option to allow different users to do it. You need to be root first to enable it. Once you do it, xcdroast can be used by anyone.
Sometimes yes, and most often no! I never know from one install to the next if it's going to work or not. The problems ALL stem from permissions NOT being set properly from the get go......I think. I've done the same install on IDENTICAL hardware on the SAME day, and NEVER will I get even most boxen to be able to burn CDs as user. This is an example of what MUST be fixed before Linux and SUSE can move MickySoft OFF the desktop. Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
On 19:40 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote: <SNIP>
'Sure does, and I hope that these issues are FINALLY taken care of in 9.2. I've a client with a NEW HP box that I CAN'T get XCDRoast to bun a CD as a user....ONLY as Root. It simply DOES "take an act of Congress" way too often to get CD burners to work properly for users FROM THE GET GO, that is in install "out of the box."
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
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I have tried k3b as root & user; xcdroast won't even completely load as root & I never get to the part allowing me to chown the damned thing ...or whatever it is called. -- "Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 18:40, Fred Miller wrote:
On Tuesday October 19 2004 11:38 am, C Hamel wrote:
On 10:07 Tue 19 Oct , Fred Miller wrote:
...And I think I might just try 9.1, now that the dust has settled. <G>
Better off ordering 9.2, as it's the MOST heavily "hammered" release yet, but a LOT more hardware support. I'd get the Pro. Upgrade release.
Fred
-- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
That's what someone said about 9.1 ...and I had to revert to 9, ultimately, for most things to work. Weird. ...And not everything is a hardware problem, but rather unsupported hardware, possibly, which boils down to software.
'Sure does, and I hope that these issues are FINALLY taken care of in 9.2. I've a client with a NEW HP box that I CAN'T get XCDRoast to bun a CD as a user....ONLY as Root. It simply DOES "take an act of Congress" way too often to get CD burners to work properly for users FROM THE GET GO, that is in install "out of the box."
I've had that problem in the past as well Fred. I read a few threads on the list here, and one of them mentioned that you need to fire up xcdroast as root and configure both the device, and user access. It's worked for me as a normal user after having done that. Mike
On 06:21 Wed 20 Oct , Mike McMullin wrote: <SNIP>
I've had that problem in the past as well Fred. I read a few threads on the list here, and one of them mentioned that you need to fire up xcdroast as root and configure both the device, and user access. It's worked for me as a normal user after having done that.
Mike
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You lucky devil! <G> xcdroast won't even acknowledge I have a burner when run from root ...which means I never get the chance to tell it a user can also burn. :-\ -- "Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio
On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:36, C Hamel wrote:
On 06:21 Wed 20 Oct , Mike McMullin wrote: <SNIP>
I've had that problem in the past as well Fred. I read a few threads on the list here, and one of them mentioned that you need to fire up xcdroast as root and configure both the device, and user access. It's worked for me as a normal user after having done that.
Mike
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You lucky devil! <G> xcdroast won't even acknowledge I have a burner when run from root ...which means I never get the chance to tell it a user can also burn. :-\
I wonder if the problem lies in kernel support for your dvd-cdrw drive. Which means googling for your drive under Linux might be interesting, in what results show what kind of config it runs under.
* Mike McMullin
On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:36, C Hamel wrote:
On 06:21 Wed 20 Oct , Mike McMullin wrote:
I sure hope that someone finds the time to change the subject of this thread or start a new thread with a Subject indicative of the content so someone else researching a problem in the archives has a chance. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
<SNIP>
I wonder if the problem lies in kernel support for your dvd-cdrw drive. Which means googling for your drive under Linux might be interesting, in what results show what kind of config it runs under.
Actually, I think it is finally figured out. Something about a resmgr something-or-other. Used to work, then didn't work, now works. Many thanks for the input. :-) -- "Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio
Make sure you get cdrecord as part of your rm. Xcderoast uses it and if I remember correctly it is not loaded by default. C Hamel wrote:
On 06:21 Wed 20 Oct , Mike McMullin wrote: <SNIP>
I've had that problem in the past as well Fred. I read a few threads on the list here, and one of them mentioned that you need to fire up xcdroast as root and configure both the device, and user access. It's worked for me as a normal user after having done that.
Mike
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You lucky devil! <G> xcdroast won't even acknowledge I have a burner when run from root ...which means I never get the chance to tell it a user can also burn. :-\ -- "Yogi" CH Namasté Yoga Studio
-- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org
On Thursday October 21 2004 12:57 am, Joseph Loo wrote:
Make sure you get cdrecord as part of your rm. Xcderoast uses it and if I remember correctly it is not loaded by default.
Read what I said, and for further clarification, the problem is that MOST installs DON'T allow a user to burn a CD, but do allow root to burn a CD. OFTEN, I've not been able to fix the setup so that a user can burn a CD, and it doesn't make a rats ass bit of difference what software you use to burn a CD with. -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
On Wednesday October 20 2004 7:21 am, Mike McMullin wrote:
'Sure does, and I hope that these issues are FINALLY taken care of in 9.2. I've a client with a NEW HP box that I CAN'T get XCDRoast to bun a CD as a user....ONLY as Root. It simply DOES "take an act of Congress" way too often to get CD burners to work properly for users FROM THE GET GO, that is in install "out of the box."
I've had that problem in the past as well Fred. I read a few threads on the list here, and one of them mentioned that you need to fire up xcdroast as root and configure both the device, and user access. It's worked for me as a normal user after having done that.
'Sometimes yes, and sometimes no. :) It really depends on if Yast feels like doing the install correctly that day on that hardware. Once done, I may or may not get XCDRoast to work as a user. Fred -- "Running Windows on a Pentium is like getting a Porsche but only being able to drive it in reverse with the handbrake on."
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