[SLE] New SUSE version.
I have a simple question. When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ? -- Groetjes, Marcel H -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new release every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask? -- -=|JP|=- Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) jpennington@atipa.com | Kansas City, MO /\\ 816-241-2641 x107 | http://www.atipa.com _\_V -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Jon Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new release every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
I think I want to know for the same reason. I've made it a habit to buy the latest version of SuSE Linux as soon as it's available. I like to be surprised! It amazed me that 6.3 contained so much more of those funny-little-thingies than 6.2, and 6.2 got more than 6.1, etc. I'm just curious what SuSE thougt up! Rogier -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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From: Rogier Maas
Jon Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new
release
every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
I think I want to know for the same reason. I've made it a habit to buy the latest version of SuSE Linux as soon as it's available. I like to be surprised! It amazed me that 6.3 contained so much more of those funny-little-thingies than 6.2, and 6.2 got more than 6.1, etc. I'm just curious what SuSE thougt up!
Try going from SuSE Linux 5.3 to SuSE Linux 6.3, I would swear it was an entire differant distro if I didn't see the freindly but well known YaST! YaST2 is going to be really sweet to show off to my non-techie freinds when they get the bugs cleaned out. I hope they don't drop the orginal yast for yast2 for a really long time though.
Rogier
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Hi, On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Jack Barnett wrote:
Try going from SuSE Linux 5.3 to SuSE Linux 6.3, I would swear it was an entire differant distro if I didn't see the freindly but well known YaST! YaST2 is going to be really sweet to show off to my non-techie freinds when they get the bugs cleaned out. I hope they don't drop the orginal yast for yast2 for a really long time though.
Don't worry: as long as YaST2 does not offer all features from YaST1, it will still be there. Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Lenz Grimmer wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Jack Barnett wrote:
Try going from SuSE Linux 5.3 to SuSE Linux 6.3, I would swear it was an entire differant distro if I didn't see the freindly but well known YaST! YaST2 is going to be really sweet to show off to my non-techie freinds when they get the bugs cleaned out. I hope they don't drop the orginal yast for yast2 for a really long time though.
Don't worry: as long as YaST2 does not offer all features from YaST1, it will still be there.
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST. -- Rachel -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi, On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Rachel Greenham wrote:
Don't worry: as long as YaST2 does not offer all features from YaST1, it will still be there.
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Yes, YaST2 will have an ASCII front end as well. In fact, you can create any kind of frontend you like since it is completely modularized. Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
rachel.greenham@enetgroup.co.uk said:
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Don't use telnet. Use ssh. Secure, X tunneling and compression if using a slow connection. Regards, Roy -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Roy Culley wrote:
rachel.greenham@enetgroup.co.uk said:
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Don't use telnet. Use ssh. Secure, X tunneling and compression if using a slow connection.
yes, quite, I should, if the remote box is off-site, but again, that starts to require more of the j.random.box I'm sitting at. Still, most of the time though I only want to do it across the LAN, but not necessarily from a machine with lots of lovely stuff installed. I tend to stick the Telnet applet on my Linux boxen, so that I know I can get at it from any machine with a browser and Java (eg: any random Windows box with just the broken basic telnet client). I think there's a Java ssh applet but last time I tried it it crashed badly. I guess I'd modify the degree of my paranoia if I were working on more high-profile sites. -- Rachel -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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Roy Culley wrote:
rachel.greenham@enetgroup.co.uk said:
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Don't use telnet. Use ssh. Secure, X tunneling and compression if using a slow connection.
yes, quite, I should, if the remote box is off-site, but again, that starts to require more of the j.random.box I'm sitting at. Still, most of the time though I only want to do it across the LAN, but not necessarily from a machine with lots of lovely stuff installed. I tend to stick the Telnet applet on my Linux boxen, so that I know I can get at it from any machine with a browser and Java (eg: any random Windows box with just the broken basic telnet client). I think there's a Java ssh applet but last time I tried it it crashed badly.
There are a bunch of Java based SSH clients, goto www.ssh.com and read their FAQ, there is about 5-10 Java SSH clients listed with links to their home page for download. Upload it to a public web server and you can use it from any computer connected to the Internet or Network (what ever the case may be) All of these client should work with OpenSSH. If they give you a choice use SSH 1 protocol.
I guess I'd modify the degree of my paranoia if I were working on more high-profile sites.
That or increase your caffeine intake : ) Seriously allot of script kiddies go from the low profile site, for the basic fact that security seems to be layed back, plus they ussually don't have a big legal team if they get caught. A couple networks we work on are really low profile, one was my home network and someone got in installed a packet sniffer and snagged about 2 root passwords on the local network and about 7 root password on remote machines, this was not a good thing. Luckily the person sniffing the network was my freind looking for odd traffic, but it sure got my heart pumping when I seen 110 megs of ASCII dumps of the local lan without any knowledge of him doing this. It can be done ..... easliy I might add... Once you get it setup and going ssh is just as convient and easy to use as telnet. You can even find Unix and Windows client that are small enough to fit on floppy disk if need be.
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El Tue, 22 Feb 2000, escribiste:
rachel.greenham@enetgroup.co.uk said:
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Don't use telnet. Use ssh. Secure, X tunneling and compression if using a slow connection.
Regards, Roy
I wonder why all people recommend using ssh when they are downloading their mail using pop3 plain text passwords ... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
El Tue, 22 Feb 2000, escribiste:
rachel.greenham@enetgroup.co.uk said:
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Don't use telnet. Use ssh. Secure, X tunneling and compression if using a slow connection.
Regards, Roy
I wonder why all people recommend using ssh when they are downloading their mail using pop3 plain text passwords ...
Well we don't allow any pop3 through our firewall at all for that very reason and because it circumvents the companies anti-virus detection. Still I hope people that do use pop3 don't get mail for user root using it. :-) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Yast over telnet fails for me. When I'm (ie) installing packages, when I press (is it F10?? the package selection key) it thinks I'm pressing escape. -mab On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Roy Culley wrote:
El Tue, 22 Feb 2000, escribiste:
rachel.greenham@enetgroup.co.uk said:
One of the main features of YaST is its ability to be run over a telnet session on a remote box. ie: Without X. Will YaST2 do this? If not, please *never* remove YaST.
Don't use telnet. Use ssh. Secure, X tunneling and compression if using a slow connection.
Regards, Roy
I wonder why all people recommend using ssh when they are downloading their mail using pop3 plain text passwords ...
Well we don't allow any pop3 through our firewall at all for that very reason and because it circumvents the companies anti-virus detection.
Still I hope people that do use pop3 don't get mail for user root using it. :-)
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Michael Bartosh wrote:
Yast over telnet fails for me. When I'm (ie) installing packages, when I press (is it F10?? the package selection key) it thinks I'm pressing escape.
Yes, this is because function keys don't travel well over telnet ;-) Look in the 'General help for installation' option in YaST's main menu. Basically, what you have to do is press Ctrl-F and then the number of the function key. F1, for example, would be Ctrl-F and then 1. Hope that helps, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* Chris Reeves (chris.reeves@iname.com) [20000223 14:59]:
Look in the 'General help for installation' option in YaST's main menu. Basically, what you have to do is press Ctrl-F and then the number of the function key. F1, for example, would be Ctrl-F and then 1.
It's much simpler than that :-) Just use the number keys, i.e. 1-0 for
F1-F10.
Philipp
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Hi, On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Michael Bartosh wrote:
Yast over telnet fails for me. When I'm (ie) installing packages, when I press (is it F10?? the package selection key) it thinks I'm pressing escape.
ncurses and escape sequences, a neverending story :) You could alternatively press CTRL+F, "0" or "0" alone. Have a look at the YaST online help on the main screen for more info. Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi.
At 7:51 on 23 Feb 00, Michael Bartosh begun to yabber about "Re:
[SLE] New SUSE version."
Date sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:51:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Michael Bartosh
Yast over telnet fails for me. When I'm (ie) installing packages, when I press (is it F10?? the package selection key) it thinks I'm pressing escape.
What type of Telnet program are you using?? The chances are that you will just have to set up your keymappings :) It happened to me when i tried to use my fav Win9x Telnet program to do menu stuff (YaST and MC) via telnet.. Cya Matthew Matthew King: Network Engineer, Cable & Wireless Optus. My ICQ#: 2342475 Message me! Cellular Phone: +61 415 257 516 041 525 7516 (Inside .au) Home e-mail: nerd@zip.com.au Work e-mail: Matthew.King@cwo.net.au Homepage: http://www.zip.com.au/~nerd/ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GIT d+ s: a--- C++++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E---- W++ N++ o++ K w O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++++ X++ R+ tv++ b+++ DI+++++ D++ G+++ e* h* r++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I would like to know of an other, real "hard core" reason. I have 500Km to go updating my server, and I don't like it to be as last time... when I cam back from my second "Update trip" of 6.2, 6.3 was on my desk waiting for me. Joakim Jon Pennington skrev:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new release every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Joakim Schramm wrote:
I would like to know of an other, real "hard core" reason. I have 500Km to go updating my server, and I don't like it to be as last time... when I cam back from my second "Update trip" of 6.2, 6.3 was on my desk waiting for me.
Not to be trite or anything, but `If it ain't broke, don't fix it' is the metaphor to be applied here. Keep up on suse-security, ssh into the box to update necessary RPMs, but don't bother with complete updates; you'll kill yourself trying. :) -- -=|JP|=- Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) jpennington@atipa.com | Kansas City, MO /\\ 816-241-2641 x107 | http://www.atipa.com _\_V -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Well, generally I aggree. However there is some packages you like to update but not really make it without a comple update. Like the apache packet 1.3.6 (6.2) to 1.3.9 (6.3), unfortunately this update wasn't as smooth as you could wish as there was other packages as well needed from the Base. But generally you are right. On the other hand, if you stay behind sooner or later you come in a much more risky situation for upgrade when there been several releases inbetween. Then you might have to rebuild the whole server to get it right, and safely get all users, domains etc. with you still working as before... well that can be something of a workload. If you have several boxes it might be easier just to transfer the masse. Joakim Jon Pennington skrev:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Joakim Schramm wrote:
I would like to know of an other, real "hard core" reason. I have 500Km to go updating my server, and I don't like it to be as last time... when I cam back from my second "Update trip" of 6.2, 6.3 was on my desk waiting for me.
Not to be trite or anything, but `If it ain't broke, don't fix it' is the metaphor to be applied here. Keep up on suse-security, ssh into the box to update necessary RPMs, but don't bother with complete updates; you'll kill yourself trying. :)
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* Joakim Schramm (joakim@humanet.se) [20000215 22:24]:
I would like to know of an other, real "hard core" reason. I have 500Km to go updating my server, and I don't like it to be as last time... when I cam back from my second "Update trip" of 6.2, 6.3 was on my desk waiting for me.
A good administrator will update a server only if there's specific reason to
do so (i.e. security or bug fixes or certain programs not in the previous
release). At least in a production environment it's 'never change a running
system', as stability is by far more important than features.
Philipp
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Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Joakim Schramm (joakim@humanet.se) [20000215 22:24]:
I would like to know of an other, real "hard core" reason. I have 500Km to go updating my server, and I don't like it to be as last time... when I cam back from my second "Update trip" of 6.2, 6.3 was on my desk waiting for me.
A good administrator will update a server only if there's specific reason to do so (i.e. security or bug fixes or certain programs not in the previous release). At least in a production environment it's 'never change a running system', as stability is by far more important than features.
Now that's what I call a principled and altruistic attitude. Clearly it's in SuSE's economic interest to have every user buy every new distribution. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* Paul W. Abrahams (abrahams@valinet.com) [20000216 05:02]:
release). At least in a production environment it's 'never change a running system', as stability is by far more important than features.
Now that's what I call a principled and altruistic attitude. Clearly it's in SuSE's economic interest to have every user buy every new distribution.
Well, first of all keep in mind that primarily these are my private
oppinions. And don't forget that SuSE also offers professional services like
consulting, business support and training, so the distribution isn't the
only source of profit.
Philipp
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A good administrator will update a server only if there's specific reason to do so (i.e. security or bug fixes or certain programs not in the previous release). At least in a production environment it's 'never change a running system', as stability is by far more important than features.
We only update (ie complete 100% new install) a server when we install a new one. We have one running kernel 2.0.29 still. It is stable and run specfic things that we don't want to mess with. The other one runs SuSE 6.1 and the new one coming online will have 6.3 or 6.?? when we get there. *--------------------------------* | Chris Large clarge@macn.bc.ca | | http://gone for now | *--------------------------------* -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I think its a bit more frequent, about every 3-4 months, as there were 4 releases last year (6.0 - 6.3). I don't think its related to kernel or any other development activity. I guess 6.4 is due sometime next month. Nadeem Jon Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new release every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
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Hey man, people like LenZ need to eat also. :) Or he'll have no strength to reply our mail? :-)
I think its a bit more frequent, about every 3-4 months, as there were 4 releases last year (6.0 - 6.3). I don't think its related to kernel or any other development activity.
I guess 6.4 is due sometime next month.
Nadeem
Jon Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new
release
every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
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Jon Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Marcel Hoogeveen wrote:
I have a simple question.
When will SuSE 6.4 or 7.0 be out. ?? Any date's available. ?
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new release every 4-6 months, based on activity in the core projects (the kernel, XFree86, etc). Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
6.4 is expected to become also in Dutch available. Could be a good raison, as for others in Belgium and Holland... Jan. -- mailto:jan@spier.be http://www.spier.be SPIER bvba, Knaptandstraat 96 - 9100 Sint-Niklaas - Belgium Tel : + 32 3 765 90 61 Fax : + 32 3 765 90 62 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
* Jon Pennington (jpennington@atipa.com) [20000215 20:40]:
If you look at the release cycles in the past, SuSE publishes a new release every 4-6 months,
Not quite :) At least currently the policy is one release per quarter.
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clarge＠macn.bc.ca -
dlbt＠pacific.net.sg -
grimmer＠suse.de -
icarus＠guldennet.nl -
jan＠spier.be -
jbarnett＠axil.netmate.com -
joakim＠humanet.se -
jpennington＠atipa.com -
mhoog＠maxsoft.hacom.nl -
nerd＠zip.com.au -
nhasan＠usa.net -
pthomas＠suse.de -
rachel.greenham＠enetgroup.co.uk -
tgdcuro1＠gd2.swissptt.ch