On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 05:38:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Ruben Safir composed on 2014-10-29 17:18 (UTC-0400):
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:33:16PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Ruben Safir composed on 2014-10-29 16:10 (UTC-0400):
sda2 will always be sda2 until you make a change in the bios.
Never say "never", and never say "always". Most times you do you can be proven wrong.
It is the first device on your sata chain.
Where the chain starts can depend on the installed hardware, which can change when external devices are added or removed.
irrelevent. My ceiling fans aren't controlled and numbered by my bios either.
My bios isn't going to assing it /dev/sda (although udev might do that. udev can do anything)
If someone complains that their temporary hard drives are not always the same name, good! It everything is as expected then.
Again you glossed over or failed to recognize an important implicit point. I didn't write anything about *when* external devices were added or removed. Here when an external HD is added and powered up while the PC is powered down, and then powering up the PC, my BIOS (actually most, maybe all, of the many BIOS I have) will find the external device first, and assign it sda instead of an internal device.
I understand the point and thanks for making it even clearer. I would need to sit with your bios and look at it BUT, archetectually, the USB or Memory slots are not on the main system bus. They do NOT start with sda1 EXCEPT, and here is the big one, if you configured the bios to boot from the external port rather than your drive. Don't boot your box with the flashdrive/external attached, because it is behaving just like you programmed the bios to. Now if this is not the situation, then I agree with you. This is a bug in the bios, because the bios difinitely internal system bus before the software driven usb or firewire connections. You have have it do a network boot and even a diskless system. Are you then going to complain that sda moved on you because your bios is doing what you tell it too?
That makes your assertion of irrelevance incorrect WRT any BIOS that behaves like mine instead of like yours.
Eh - sorry - I was being cranky without a clear reason.
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