what i did i upgraded to ppp4 working fin until today i decided to remove ppp3 rpm when i did rpm -e ppp2.3x it complain it was use by wvdial, since i knew i put 2.4 i forcibly removed the pcgk via rpm -e ppp2.3 --nodeps now i can only stay conected as root,,, as user it logs me out with this errorAug 23 21:14:01 ptorico pppd[1147]: pppd 2.4.0 started by landy, uid 500 Aug 23 21:14:01 ptorico pppd[1147]: Using interface ppp0 Aug 23 21:14:01 ptorico pppd[1147]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1 Aug 23 21:14:09 ptorico pppd[1147]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Aug 23 21:14:09 ptorico pppd[1147]: Modem hangup Aug 23 21:14:09 ptorico pppd[1147]: Connection terminated. Aug 23 21:14:09 ptorico pppd[1147]: Exit. Aug 23 21:14:18 ptorico su: (to root) landy on /dev/pts/0 Aug 23 21:14:18 ptorico PAM-unix2[1149]: session started for user root, service su THANKS IN ADVANCE -- Rolando Roman Linux 9:00pm up 16 min, 6 users, load average: 1.08, 0.56, 0.28 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq