peter Nikolic wrote:
I cannot get through even a few hours on any Linux desktop box without entering commands as root to clear up quirks.
BUT at least you CAN clear the problems and you dont have to completely reboot the machine like you would in that crapware from M$ Corp
Sometimes. Other times the problems are beyond my understanding, and rather than wait two days hoping for a solution from someone on a list or newsgroup, one must reboot. This is comparatively rare for me, since I have been doing Linux for 10 years. But I imagine for new users, this rebooting is the only way out of many problems for them. Though I agree that in theory, this is almost never necessary.
the Linux desktop has been ready for a while now it4s just too many comparrisons being made with that crapware from M$ Corp
OpenOffice looks like unprofessional crap because the freetype lib in Suse 9.1 doesn't have the bytesode interpreter enabled (I think, which I will know for sure after recompiling it).
but there you go again too man comparrisons with that crapware from M$ Corp you see unless you are Re- Educated to remove the M$ Corp blinkers you will never be satisfied you could rename windBlows to Linux and because it is not called windBlows you would complain and start the M$ Corp comparrisons once again ..
Here you are grossly mistaken. You are assuming that I am comparing to Windows. I am not. I have been using Linux as my desktop OS for 95% of my computing for 10 years. Since pre Slackware 95. Kernel 1.2.8. When did you get involved with Linux? Now my point is this: I am comparing Linux not to Windows but to an absolute standard of quality based on what I simply expect to see. Also based on what I have read in hundreds of articles by Linux advocates hyping Linux for the desktop. And what it says on the Suse web pages. In other words, I don't think it lives up to what it's advertized to be. I am basing that view on how I would feel if it were *my* product. I would not ship it unless many aspects were polished and more thoroughly tested. I made a comment about OpenOffice. In Suse 9.1, the truetype fonts are not rendered as cleanly as in Suse 9.1. There is a reason for this, having to do with the freetype lib. So are you going to tell me that I should not expect that my Suse 9.1 box display fonts in OpenOffice that look professional, and not like clunky ugly coarse garbage? That by having the expectation that it look professional I am somehow complaining because I haven't been "re-educated?" Maybe other people don't notice the poor quality of the font rendering in the office application billed by the Linux advocates as the program that can completely replace MS Office. Perhaps the Linux advocates are the ones who are brainwashed, by the poor quality of the font rendering! What kind of re-education should I be subjected to? Sounds like religious extremism to me. Anything that contradicts the false belief that Linux is so much better than Windows means that one is simply brainwashed by M$ Corp. Well I don't need to look at a Windows box with its cleanly rendered fonts to know that the fonts in my Suse 9.1 OpenOffice look like crap. I will fix it. But I am dissatisfied with the quality of the product. I shouldn't have to recompile the font rendering library to get decent looking fonts. If I could, I would invite you to my facility where you could stand on a stage and demonstrate how great Linux is to the masses of Windows users, to re-educate them. When you show them OpenOffice, and hype that it is "almost 100% compatible with Word files" then watch it blow up in your face as you try to open the first corporate form written in Word, not to mention the crummy looking fonts, then I will simply watch you get laughed off the stage. Ironically, this scenario bears a lot of resemblance to a certain historic moment experienced by Bill Gates, demonstrating one of his crummy products. Let me make one final thing very clear. It is the critics, the ones who are not satisfied and who demand better, that do service to Linux. The religious fanatics who worship it and react to any criticism thinking that it is coming from a brainwashed Windows fool, they do disservice to Linux. Good day! -- ____________________________________ Christopher R. Carlen Principal Laser/Optical Technologist Sandia National Laboratories CA USA crcarle@sandia.gov