Well, I might as well join in the 11.1 upgrade frolics as well.. I am trying to do a complete install (not an upgrade) of SuSE 11.1 and it has not been an easy process! But am making progress nonetheless... My major headache at the moment is getting the sound system to work. I think I know where the trouble lies but I do not know how to fix it... My system has both a sound chip on the motherboard and I have the Creative Labs Audigy Pro 4 card installed. I suspect that having two sound systems is at the root of my troubles... I can not say a whole lot about the sound system that is on the motherboard itself, other than to say that drivers which are installed for it have a name prefix of CX88. I never use (or want to) this sound chip and in fact have disabled it in the BIOS. But despite that, SuSE and ALSA seem to be finding it. And if that is the chip that is in fact being activated for my sound, then it is no wonder I cannot hear any sound. (since nothing is hooked up to it) The sound setup tool in YaST only reports the Audigy Sound card BUT when I run Alsaconf to set it up I am getting the following error messages - Loading driver... Shutting down sound driver ERROR: Module snd_pcm is in use by cx88_alsa ERROR: Module snd_timer is in use by snd_pcm ERROR: Module snd_page_alloc is in use by snd_pcm ERROR: Module snd is in use by cx88_alsa, snd_pmc, snd_timer so this is why I suspect that SuSE is finding this sound chip on my motherboard and trying to use it instead of the Creative Labs Soundblaster Audigy 4 Pro card. In SuSE 10.3 it was sufficient to simply disable this chip in the BIOS and Alsaconf was quite happy to install the Audigy Pro sound card as my main sound system. Dunno why that is not the case any more, but can someone tell me how to completely disable the CX88 sound chip so SuSE will not find it or attempt to use it? As an FYI for those who put SuSE 11.1 installation together... I had to remove the OpenOffice modules from the set of packages to be installed. No matter whether I tried to install KDE4.1 or KDE3.5 the installation process ALWAYs hung on me when trying to install OpenOffice. I had a heck of a time getting the display to work. I am using an nVidia display card, and the installation failed to correctly set up my display. Trying to use Yast2 or Sax made it far worse and both left me with an unusable display. (I did eventually find and use the one button setup for nVidia that was described on the OpenSuSE website, and that part seemed to work fine, but I don't understand why it should have been necessary for me to hunt that down and not have the installation process automatically set up the drivers and such for me..) Also, after much hunting around I finally discovered that nVidia supplies their own X11 configuration tool and it is the ONLY way I was able to get the display to work properly. It would have been real nice if I had been told, during the installation process, that since I had an nVidia display card that I should go to the nVidia web site and use their X11 configuration tool instead. I spent hours fooling around with YaST2 and Sax trying to get this working. While on the subject of displays, why is it that the main part of YaST2 honors the font settings as defined by the KDE Control Center tool, but none of the subcomponents of YaST, like the software manager, Boot Loader, System Services (Runlevel) etc do... For me, the font is coming up so small as to be almost unreadable... While KDE4 looks promising, I had to give up on it as well and drop back to KDE3.5. There is little/no help available in it for configuring the display or sound system in KDE4.1 and I found it confusing to use. So, since I am unfamiliar with it, I had to drop back to an environment, KDE3.5, that I am familiar with and am having more luck with it, but as I mention still no joy with the sound.... Marc.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org