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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Felix Miata
Mark Goldstein composed on 2014-11-22 09:10 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
Mark Goldstein composed on 2014-11-21 20:28 (UTC+0200):
Is the recommendation in SDB:NVIDIA_the_hard_way obsolete? Anyone has experience with removing nouveau driver in 13.2?
try to add nomodeset to grub.
Not sure what nomodeset has to do with removing nouveau?
Nouveau requires KMS. Nomodeset disables KMS, which denies loading of nouveau.
OK, I see. Still the SDB article mentions modeset.nouveau=0. And
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc explains nomodeset is generic, while nouveau.modeset=0 is specific to NVidia chips. I've updated https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_the_hard_way to match, even though I never use proprietary video drivers in Linux.
Thank you. So it is nouveau.modeset=0 and not modeset.nouveau=0?
rebuilding of initramfs. (Why graphical card driver is included into initramfs is another question).
I think it may be there for the benefit of bling, aka Plymouth.
In any case, the NVidia drivers for "old" GeForce FX series are not supported anymore. Old jokes about MS SW upgrades causing users to buy new HW unfortunately hold for Linux as well :-(
NVidia drivers are provided by NVidia. You could try complaining to NVidia, but don't forget it's in the business of selling hardware. Yes, I understand that. Note that 173.xxxx branch was dropped after
That's what I thought as well. the "incompatible" changes in one of opensource components: kernel and/or x server. I do not have enough knowledge to say whether these changes were necessary and why it was not possible to keep backward compatibility. These things happen from time to time.
Nouveau is FOSS. For nouveau to continue to provide support for old chips, there need to be community members testing those old chips using betaware and reporting bugs for any observed failures. The developers seem to upgrade their hardware more often than the general population and not keep the old stuff in use, if at all, depending on the people who depend on old hardware continuing to work being involved in the FOSS process.
Unfortunately, nouveau never worked well on my HW (two main issues: fickering, and shifting of the view area of the screen. I use the same screen on my main machine and on old test machine, with KVM), so I'm normally switching to proprietary driver. I guess, QA should have some older HW (not going back to PC-XT, but at least 4-5 years back. Of course it is easy to say, but it means space, additional testing cycles and probably more). -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org