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On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 05:43:58PM -0800, Nick Webb wrote: -> Everyone is talking about 10,000 RPM IDE hard drives, yet I can't find -> one single thing on them. I've looked at maxtor, wester digital, and IBM, -> none of them have one that I can see. IBM and Seagate both make 10K RPM scsi drives and Seagate makes some 15K RPM ones. In IBM, look at the "UltraStar" server-class drives, in Seagate look at the Cheetah and Cheetah X15 series. Here's what I have in my machine: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: SEAGATE Model: ST318451LW Rev: 0003 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 That's a Cheetah X15 15,000 RPM 18GB Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 Vendor: IBM Model: DDYS-T36950N Rev: S96H Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00 Vendor: IBM Model: DDYS-T36950N Rev: S9YB Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 03 Those are both UltraStar DDYS 10,000 RPM 36GB. Michael -- "# chmod a+x /bin/laden" Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA