On 07/16/2017 09:49 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 16.07.2017 um 15:39 schrieb michael norman:
On 16/07/17 09:47, Richard Brown wrote:
The email@example.com is meant to be a support mailinglist for the openSUSE distributions.
No one is being helped by the continuation of this thread or other ones like it.
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So, consider this a warning. I'm fed of up reading this nonsense and I will work hard to ensure that it stops if the attendees of this list do not make an effort to end it. Now.
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You do that and you can say goodbye to me a SUSE user since 5.0 days.
I've never contributed much so my loss won't mean much. But if your view prevails I'm gone.
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This not what I want to read. It's a f***ing rant just any other one, just in an even more unfriendly tone. We are not your children, you are not our legal guardian, and if you were, you should search for some help about modern educational methods.
In the immortal words of Rodney King, "People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?"
IMHO Richard has a point, possibly poorly made. This list, with a mission of offering support to both new-bees and gray-beards, really doesn't need nastiness and flame wars. Heated theoretical discussions about the UNIX Philosophy, while interesting, probably aren't what a new-comer wants to hear. Someone offered the suggestion of creating a new mailing list, maybe entitled systemd-design, or something. Couldn't Per do that in a few seconds?
Also, I have some experience working within a volunteer organization. I've learned it remarkably difficult to channel volunteers to do what they don't want. Pushing a string comes to mind. Volunteer's energies and morale are better lead by encouragement and example. Threats of any kind just trigger a stampede for the exits. I hope no one abandons us, just when I started to make the case for a new group of technical people to dump Windows and join us.