On 5/5/2010 8:49 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 05/04/2010 11:44 PM, Brian K. White wrote:
On 5/4/2010 7:20 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* David C. Rankin<drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [05-04-10 18:50]:
I did an update yesterday and with zypper's or yast's 'magic' the 'update' deleted mysql from my system and replaced it with 'MariaDB'. I sure in the heck didn't tell it to do that. Somebody at Novell included code somewhere that says "On the next update, delete mysql and replace it with MariaDB -- and don't make it obvious to the user."
Novell ???
Are you grasping straws? Or just flailing out where-ever?
I know, this discussion is hilarious to witness.
People, your systems were not changed by any mystery. Novell did not make any such arbitrary disruptive change to your system. OpenSUSE 11.2 updates repo still has mysql and no mariadb in it.
That means if your system changed to mariadb during an update, it was because you ASKED for this to happen by adding some other repo to your install sources, and then performed a blind update instead of of reviewing the proposed update.
So, you went out of your way to add some external repo, and then you used it irresponsibly, and then you accused Novell of breaking your system. This is why big companies remove freedoms from the rest of us. Thanks.
Oh contrair BKW,
With a massive update-all, and no asking for Maria, she appeared out of the light like a moth drawn to a flame. While I did have the obs-database repository activated, on investigation, is still contains both mysql and mariadb. There is logic somewhere that was inserted that says mariadb=mysql or my system would have never pulled in a package on 'update' that was not previously 'installed' before. Sure sounds like someone doesn't want to end up with egg on their face :p
What do you mean contraire? You just said exactly what I said. How is that contraire. Apparently we have not been clear enough. If you do not understand how adding extra install sources works, then do not use them. If you do not understand how rpms work, then do not use any that did not come from you original install dvd. Just buy a dvd, install from that, and do not add anything else, and you will never have these mysteries. Nothing happened that you did not _ask for_. If you do not understand how you asked for this, that's no one elses fault. If I sound a little more annoyed over this than would seem reasonable it's because this is really part of a larger problem, which is a huge problem that apparently will never leave the human race. Like I said, THIS is why companies never allow any sort of freedoms with their products. Because every time they do the slightest little bit, users just mess everything up and then accuse the vendor of shipping something broken and make the vendor eat the cost of giving the user a whole new whatever-it-was-they-broke. It's like giving someone this amazing powerful new tool, fire, and they burn themselves with it, and then they accuse you of burning them and try to get you locked up. The only sane response is don't give people fire. Oh well, without fire they'll freeze in the winter and they can't fashion steel tools to do other work and basically they'll miss out on civilization, but I can't help that, when I gave them fire they attacked me. If they manage to discover it on their own that's nice, but I can't help, because I can't afford to be attacked, I have my own family to look out for. Too bad it also means no one else can help me either because they don't know if I'll attack them for it. They don't dare tell me about electricity for instance so I miss out on that. So there we are, a world full of people who are forced to avoid anything like cooperation and generosity. Did you happen to read the book or see the movie Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy? There was a scene where this planet had a life form that sensed intelligent imaginative thought and any time it sensed any it smacked it. So the dominant life form evolved to avoid thinking intelligently or imaginatively. That's US. You help, you get burned, you stop helping. Thanks for helping continue that "don't help because it just gets you attacked" world. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org