Hi, nicely spoken, +1 Karl Am Montag, 16. August 2010, 17:40:27 schrieb Larry Stotler:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
The forcing is indirect. Intelligent people want and expect available security fixes and the occasional new features that are actually useful. This is only possible by upgrading the OS when its "support" period expires. Of the many users of the various Linux distros, few are as lucky as those of openSUSE, due to its preserving the ability to continue using the DTE that best gets the job done for them, KDE3. For the most part, "support" for a mature product like KDE3 isn't really needed. Most of its users either don't hit whatever bugs remain, or have learned to work through or around them. They remain able to continue to get their work done without disruption from needing to learn major new paradigms, or finding alternatives to the missing or buggy features their work depends on.
Agreed. With so many areas, people are always trying to do something "new" when what is current is actually plenty "Good Enough". I still use MacOS 9 on my Powerbook 3400. I CAN run Linux or NetBSD on it, but have never gotten around to it. My laptop is a P3/1Ghz, 11.0/KDE3. Runs great. After installing 11.3/KDE4 on a P3/700 for testing, I find KDE4 to be unusable when KDE3 was fine on it. It was SLOW. The KDE devs claimed that KDE4 is as fast as or faster, and uses the same or LESS RAM than KDE3. That MAY have been the case with 4.0.x, and maybe 4.1.x, but definately not with 4.4.x.
What was it McCoy said in Star Trek the Motion Picture? "I know Engineers, they LOVE to change things!".
As someone who grew up with DOS, OS/2, etc, I prefer the command line and despise having to wade through so much crap to turn off Bling.
I had repeatedly asked about KPersonalizer being ported over to KDE4 so we can have an easy way to turn on unnessessary things like search, compositing, and 3d, and looking on the KDE lists I have seen similar requests. Maybe turning off the bling is defeating the purpose of using KDE4. I've basically felt that is the case, and after using LXDE on my old P3/700 laptop, I'm finding it a very suitable replacement. Other than finding a KWord replacement(OpenOffice is TOO Bloated) it does what I need. And, since it's based on GTK, as is Firefox, I find I'm using less resources.
And for those that say things are cheap and buy new, some of us can't afford it with our personal situations.
Personally, I find KDE4 is not a path I will take, and I'm thrilled to see that there is KDE3 support for 11.3, so I will try to test drive that before doing anything else.
Just my 2 cents. Not advocating anyone move away from KDE4, just explaining my experience. KDE4 has introduced nothing I need and many things I don't want. If it works for you then more power to you.
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