-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 SOTL wrote:
Pascal Bleser wrote:
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OpenSuSE is a down load hackers platform put together by technical professional for technical professional and as such does not contain all programs necessary to run all computers.
Err... could you elaborate on that ? What are you talking about ? Proprietary drivers ?
The SuSE teams knows the difference in content better than I do so ask them for exact details of the difference but as I understand it Open SuSE contains only open source programs. SuSE on the other hand contains
Wrong. Let's take the latest release, 10.1. SUSE Linux 10.1 (the distribution is still called "SUSE Linux", *not* "OpenSuSE") is made up of a set of 5 CDs that contain only Open Source Software. A 6th add-on CD is available, that contains non-OSS packages. Same thing if you install over the Internet: - - the main repository only contains OSS packages: http://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirrors/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-1... - - there's a non-OSS repository that contains... non-OSS packages: http://ftp.belnet.be/pub/mirrors/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-1... I still don't see how you relate "only contains OSS" and "a download hackers platform ... and as such does not contain all programs necessary to run all computers".
all of OpenSuSE and non open source programs so is thus more complete.
Assuming that with "SuSE" (as compared to "OpenSuSE") you mean the enterprise distribution SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop): wrong. See above. What you call "OpenSuSE" also contains non-OSS packages. It is up to you to decide whether you want to use them or not.
If the email I received from the SuSE development team is correct the win modem driver or what ever you want to call it is not ope source which means that it can not be included in OpenSuSE since OpenSuSE does not pay royalty which SuSE does.
Ewwww... Wait, wait, you're totally mixing up two things here. The winmodem driver has been dropped from the SUSE Linux distribution (as well as the "commercial" (as you call it) one) because it is not under the GPL license. Because it is not GPL, it is violating the Linux kernel's license. Linux kernel drivers *must* be GPL, or they are illegal. Although not many people have cared much about it in the past, several kernel developers have become very vocal about that lately (one of the most vocal about it being employed by Novell, btw) and "threatening" Linux distributions that if they don't comply, there might even be legal consequences. It was badly communicated, somewhat sudden, but they are in their own right: as of the Linux kernel's license, those winmodem drivers that have been dropped from SUSE Linux 10.1 and SLED10 are illegal. Period. Novell/SUSE has taken the decision to comply with that license and to remove such drivers from the distribution. OTOH it has also contacted those manufacturers and proposed to help them maintain their drivers in a SUSE Linux compatible way, which is what's happening for nVidia and Ati: those are now offering a repository with SUSE Linux Kernel Module Packages ("KMP"s) on their own site.
As far as "programs" are concerned, SUSE Linux (it's still called "SUSE Linux" - "openSUSE is the community apparel around it) ships orders of magnitude more applications than windows.
Really, what are you actually talking about ?
SuSE is a completely different world. It is commercial software sold to
Eh.. well... SUSE is totally *not* a different world. If you mean SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop), it isn't all that different, given that SLED 10 is based on SUSE Linux 10.1.
It is that different IF you require non open source programs to make your computer run fully and correctly and you are a non teckie.
Again, you're totally mixing up things here. You can use those "non opensource programs" on SUSE Linux as well (what you call "OpenSuSE"). The "non opensource programs" that have been dropped because they violate the Linux kernel license (like that winmodem driver) are gone on *all* SUSE distributions, also the enterprise ones (like SLED).
technical illiterates including very senior corporate management which make decisions of the type the new corporate computer system will be Windows because I purchased one of those damn SuSE box distribution sets and it crashed my computer causing me to have to take my computer to a computer shop which took 2 weeks which cost the company 1 million US dollars and almost got me fired. Fortunately I was able to convene the Senior VP that my computer crashed cause my dog pissed on it. I am damn mad and I will fire anyone who even suggest that trash is usable trash. Not in my division. Get Microsoft and get it installed correctly because it work and that Linux trash does not.
... and your point is ? That managers are clueless ? many are. (may I add: when it comes to IT ;))
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