On 09/06/2015 12:43 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Ruben Safir wrote:
This is an inappropriate conversation for this list. Which part of that are you not getting. Are you a fucking idiot? Your a scumbag with a political axe to grind and you don't give a shit about the channel that you pollute to get your political point across.
Why the hell did Bjarne Örn Hansen start this up?
He is also a dick.
Please modify your language, it is highly inappropriate.
Actually I am quite grateful for such language... It gets the point across when something else wouldn't. But at the same time it is insincere to ask people to take a conversation elsewhere because it is "inappropriate" for a channel. Everytime it happens, some of the momentum is lost. The moment is lost. That's all I'm saying. You can be having a great meeting with someone somewhere and bending the rules a bit to have it. Does that make me an asshole? I guess it does. People in open source channels do it all the time and not for good reasons. It also happens in real life, you have a nice chat with someone and some jealous idiot in a position of authority moves the conversation elsewhere or ends the conversation at that precise time and location. But the conversation doesn't pick up, because, perhaps unlike on the Internet, it might mean your chat partner or whomever it is, will likely go and do something else. Such as going for a smoke, whatever. The moment is lost, you may have just lost your only opportunity to meet that person (which I did, thus far). In this case it was also a case of "goes and does something else". I don't like that. I am that ?.... There can be IRC chat channels where nobody says anything for 30 minutes. Two people are having a roast. A third person comes in and says that it would be better to move the conversation elsewhere. You stop talking. Nothing happens in the channel for 30 minutes. You see how insincere this is?. In my real life example the conversation was inapproriate because it was a psychiatric institution and the rules dictate that you can never meet any person there of the opposite sex. And I was doing that. I was meeting a girl. So I broke the rules, I didn't care about the rules, as I do not now. In my first IRC encounter my conversation was inappropriate because I was talking about personal things (programming) with another person I just met, in a channel meant for the development of some Linux distribution. The channel was silent, mostly. It was just me and that guy talking. We were told to take it elsewhere but we never quite picked up the topic again. The topic was lost, and is lost to us since. I am still trying to find him on IRC again. We never quite got to the point of meeting for real (on the web/internet) because of that false start, mostly, I think, I guess. I guess I am a dick for abusing these channels for my purposes. You can call me that. I don't mind, I thank you for it. But they are also a-holes for ruining something that was good and blossoming for their own purposes, which had no real benefit to their channel(s) except for apparently cleaning up the public record because they are all logged, I don't know what else. I don't know what they get from it, that is my misunderstanding perhaps. I cannot place myself in their position. All the same. I guess I have started abusing other channels inappropriate for my goals because the channels that I did have before, are all gone. I'm sorry about that. Please call me out on it. I think, as I have said before, it is a matter of stopping to pursue these goals. I think I should realise where I am at and stop trying to 'live that way' that I lived before. Maybe I should realise that I should go off the internet because there is nothing for me there anymore. As I said before here. I am not sure if that other person responded to that with his almost empty message. So please, and I'm sorry. You're right Ruben. I am that. My apologies. Xen. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org