SOTL wrote:
T. Lodewick wrote:
SOTL schrieb:
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
On Monday 07 August 2006 15:52, Per Jessen wrote:
Would you care to elaborate? Whether or not an enterprise uses SLED or openSUSE is only a matter of IT policy, not features nor anything else.
The above would be nice if it were true but it is not true.
OpenSuSE does not contain any non open source programs ie ones that may not be used without paying royalties.
SLED is a commercial program which does contain non open source programs ie ones in which one must pay royalties to use.
If you do not need the non open source programs then of course they are then equivalent but if of course you need such programs to make your system work then they are not equivalent.
Last I heard most win modem programs are non open source.
That would seem to imply that if one wanted a laptop to use its internal to connect to the internet and that one was not a geek then would need to purchase SuSE.
Apparently it is very difficult for people to understand that there are two ways of making an operating system work - become a geek or pay a geek to do the work.
If one has different interest say is a medical doctor et then one feel of expertise is not being a geek meaning that it is preferable to pay someone else to be the geek.
Realize OpenSuSE is a geek thing.
SLED is a non geek thing. That is the program that geeks sell to non geeks who have no desires to be a geek so that the geeks can buy non geek things like food and bear.
Very simple stuff. No sale of non geek programs to non geeks then the geeks do not get to eat or drink bear.
can U ( or someone on the list ) translate that into a small term to the point what you wnated to say with it ? I can't get the point of view.
thanks, JBScout aka Thomy
Keep trying by reread the abovr.
If your are still confused ask any non geek and let them explain it to you.
I have done my best to and there is a complete failure to comprehend.
In my first reply to this I thought you were trying to be a wise ass but on reflection I see that you just do not get it and there really is no reason you should unless you are an avid reader of Groklaw. It all goes back to law. If I give you something as no cost (as in monetary or trade value) then when you accept there is an 'implication' of your accepting the good on an "as is" bases. "As is" is a phrase that denotes that there is no liability or warranty given or implied. Note the preceding word 'implication' as not all gifts are "as is". For example of a gift that is not "as is" assume you go to the good old grocery store and a manufacture gives you a sample of a new product; that sample is not given in on "as is" bases but contain the same implied warranty that a commercial product would. On the other hand if I sell you something then what ever that good is there is an implied warranty. For example if you go down and purchase a new car then there is an implication that that car contains all the components necessary to run. You can not indescrimiately leave out such vital components as the spark plugs or tires. The implied warranty would be violated. The same above argument also applies to a good or service if you rent it or license it. Same concept but there is a slight difference in vocublary but the concept isw the same. Now lets translate this to Linux. If I down load OpenSuSE there is no implied warranty that OpenSuSE will work pon my computer and no guarantee of performance. On the other hand if I purchase a box set of comerical SuSE ther is an implied warranty and in many locations a guarantee warranty by law that the product will perform as expected. If it does not then the product is in violation of its warranty and may be subject to none to severe legal penalties depending on purchase location. If it can be demonstrated that the product failure was due to gross neglance (inability to connect to the internet by modem) and that resulted in substantial damages to the consumer then it may be that the consumer is not only legally able to obtain their purchase price of the good back but that the consumer may be in fact be able to recover consiquental damages. To translate this latter assume Mr. Consummer purchases a good for $100.00 which does not perform as expected due to gross neglance in the manufacture of the good and the manufacture was aware of this then the manufacture may be liable to the consumer for the $1,000,000.00 consequential damage that non performance of the good caused. Non commercial - OpenSuSE and Commercial SuSE are two radically different worlds legally worlds. I can here some here say but OpenSuSE is developed by contributions with all programs being subject to one form or another of an open source licenses (There are half a dozen and this is simplified overview so I will not list them.) so that means that commercial SuSE's programs are that way too. Not so. The license for use of the program may be exactly the same but and that is a big BUT the fact that SuSE aggregation (no matter who did the work it was sold by SuSE) means that SuSE guarantees the product to work. That is where the issue with the modem comes in. If it can be shown that in a court of law that the product did work in an earlier version and due to incompetence of the aggregators that the does not now work then there could be (again depending on location) major legal issues and financial penalties to SuSE. You can get better explanations for some of the issues by keeping up with Groklaw and as I am not a lawyer everything stated above should not be taken as a legal opinion; only as to an explanation of the previous post is implying. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org