Anton Aylward wrote:
Linda Walsh said the following on 05/07/2013 07:20 PM:
Anton Aylward wrote:
Ah, another fringe case raises its head!
--- Nope.. another real-life case. But if you only think of yourself, you'll think everyone else is fringe.
Just so: in fact everyone can say that - everyone has their own context and needs.
Agreed -- anyone sufficiently focused on themselves will think other people are weird.
This is the problem with current openSUSE -- it's being designed for laptops and handhelds.
And workstations - "Desktops". Don't for get the "D in SLED
Is the desktop edition still around?
I'm talking about a server. And while 1TB would be large, 300-400GB would not be -- and that would still overwhelm any memory based tmp system.
I keep saying Context is Everything but you seem to want to take what as say as a Bed for Procrustes.
Well if we didn't have people around who are sabotaging previous compatibility, I might not appear so sensitive to it -- not that I am to the extent I appear, but better to squawk early and often so they can't say later you didn't say anything. There is no one to blame but myself if I say nothing or wait for a could of cycles to upgrade... thus I moved from behind the curve to on the edge... just so I could make my opinion well heard. I have to be more than a little over the top or people won't hear me -- the thing is I know I'm representing hundreds to thousands of users who haven't upgraded. Some say they are sticking in the 11.x series. I agree-- it was pretty stable compared to 12.x... I think 11.3 was pretty solid, 11.4 started to get a bit squirrelly...whatever. I know some of these leading edge developers aren't happy about everything I say -- but usually -- don't developers want feedback (ok... I'm dating myself.)...at least they know I care about the decisions being made and am not being apathetic.
If your use case for the business needs requires a large transient file then yes, you should not be using a tmpfs for /tmp.
I'm not.
If you feel that way then get the openSuse developers to make the type of store for /tmp easily configurable.
It isn't?
It *IS* configurable right not, but you have to disable a unit and make an entry in /etc/fstab. I could do that in a about 50 seconds. I'm sure its within tour skill set too, Linda. Yes it would be nice to have Yast do it for those who live and die by Yast, but I don't.
--- I didn't have to do anything...but I'm not running systemd either...and I am running from the latest in factory (after finishing a 12.3 install) and still booting from my HD w/separate usr. It doesn't come up smoothly, but given all the bad stuff that's been dumped on her, she's doing remarkably well. Even making progress in my workstation<->server link -- with reads .. well had them over 500MB/s earlier, but now am down to mid 400's... but just got over 730MB/s writes (still not great considering it's a 20Gb link, but never worked with anything faster than 1Gb before a few months ago)...
Most server admins would think nothing of their system using a custom kernel for their HW -- you want the best performance out of it possible.
Its not just the custom kernel, its all the tuning parameters that are available. I've mentioned the virtual memory ones, but there are ones to do with the disk algorithms, the processor scheduling, times-slicing and more. And they interact. Its a "Black Art".
--- Yeah?!... Yummie and fun!... I'm tweaking them all to get those last bits of performance. From a practical point, any network speeds over 1GB/s will be hard for anything on disk to keep up in other than timing tests... so yup... playing with many of those... it's *fun*!
. locking down the machines so users will only
be able to use stuff they buy from "the app store"... That's the direction suse's changes are going.
If that's so they're not alone; that's where the market is going. There's a quote from Gandhi: "There goes my people. I must follow them, for I am their leader."
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