Am Sonntag, 19. Juni 2011, 22:14:39 schrieb Anton Aylward:
Sven Burmeister said the following on 06/19/2011 07:28 AM:
I claimed that working IMAP is more important for me than not being able to run KDE without having to install akonadi or nepomuk or them being used for an addressbook.
Help me here, Sven. What does a "working IMAP" have to do with it?
Context. This thread was about kdepim, akonadi etc. "imposed links to xy (akonadi/nepomuk etc.)" were claimed to be showstoppers and making KDE4/kdepim 4.6 something one "cannot work" with. IMHO a broken IMAP (client) after resuming from suspend is really something that results in "cannot work" whereas "imposed links" is something that can only lead to "do not want it". The IMAP issue was fixed in kdepim 4.6 while it remains broken in previous kdepim versions. HTH
I use IMAP exclusively from my desktop. Yes, mailhub uses SMTP and POP, as, I'm sure, do the ISP accounts. But my desktop MUA uses only IMAP. It works great. It has for a long time. It works as well now as it did before akonadi/nepomuk came along.
The imap-kio does not recover from resuming and has to be killed. Long known bug. this is about kdepim and not some other email client.
My complaints are all about things I am FORCED to install even if I don't want them and don't use them. Linux is supposed to be about freedoms that the other two major players in the OS game don't give us. They adopt a "my way or nothing" attitude; oh you can fiddle with "bling" but nothing like the freedom Linux gives you. The journalists may complain about the diversity of Linux while their colleagues are complaining we are killing off the diversity of wild-life.
Linux is a very broad word in that context. A lot of dependencies you encounter are decided on by the packagers and not necessarily imposed by KDE. Packaging depends on which distro you use. Packagers do think about which dependencies might be best for the common user. Yet even that opinion alters from distro to distro. So maybe you are looking for another packaging ideology than the one openSUSE uses. Maybe gentoo?
So: I don't _want_ to use Kmail. I _DO_ want to use Thunderbird. I _DO_ want to use Firefox. I _DON'T_ want to use Gnome. I _DO_ want to use GoogleCalendar.
Who forces you to use kmail? This thread was basically about having to use akonadi/nepomuk for some features within KDE. It's common to share functionality across apps in order to save resources (memory as well as programming).
Am I alone? Perhaps some lurkers can say "me too" (PLEASE!) I don't think this is odd.
What can you do? Well, I'd _like_ to stick with KDE, but ...
Thunderbird and Firefox have plugins that I consider essential. Its as simple as that. If you can make Thunderbird use the Mozilla plugins I'll look at KMail.
I don't imagine anything will make me use Dolphin.
You cannot stick with KDE because it includes dolphin and kmail? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org