[sorry for the private mail; forgot that this came from a mailing list, not NNTP
On Tue, 31 May 2011 20:47:27 +0530, Anton Aylward <opensuse(a)antonaylward.com>
I regularly kill off the akonadi process tree after booting.
I'd like to 'zypper remove' it, but it seems to bound in to other things.
these days i'm using the awesome windows manager most of the time, using KDE
applications. it's easier to avoid starting akonadi/nepomuk this way; and i do like
the awesome interface.
But I use Thunderbird and Firefox and Lightening so
the PIM side of it
is no use to me. I use thunderbird via an IMAP link to my mail hub on a
separate machine. I have no use for KDE PIM and don't foresee every
i prefer kmail, but in order to avoid akonadi i'm using thunderbird now. mail gets
collected by fetchmail & served via dovecot, so that's not a problem.
The closest use I can see is my directory of PDFs.
I save interesting web pages as PDFs (firefox is nice about that)
Right now I use mindmaps with short descriptions and links to navigate
that. A Wiki might be nicer but I'd still want graphical support.
But I have an ordered filing system and I remember where I put stuff!
Its just that with so much of it the question arises: which has the most
that's about the only reason to use nepomuk / strigi i'm seeing right now; and i
don't have that many pdf.s, so i can do without it.
I've seen many mention that Kfind (or find or
grep-R) does a better job
(though not for PDFs) and that is so for me for everything else. I've
seen mention that the KDE development is drifting from user needs. I'm
not sure it is; what I do and what I see in other parts of the system,
is that things are getting too heavily linked. The architecture is
bound rather than pluggable. Many packages drag in other packages that
you don't want, aren't going to use, even when the low level code
bindings aren't there.
i agree with this. what brought me to KDE was more freedom of choice and configuration.
tying akonadi/nepomuk into everything seems to be a step away from this. in principle i
like the idea of a "semantic desktop," but since the beginning of KDE 4.x there
hasn't been any improvement to the whole thing -- from a simple users' point of
view. the only way to use any of these features, without resorting to SPARQL queries and
such, is via dolphin search -- and i don't like dolphin. used to be possible to
search from konqueror via nepomuksearch:/, but that doesn't work anymore either.
i'm using KDE:/Distro:/Factory as my working system, and KDE:/unstable in a virtual
box, but can't see any improvements to the akonadi/nepomuk situation in the near
future. afraid it may turn out to be a pipe dream after all...
but then, who am i to tell the KDE dev.s what to do? i haven't donated any money,
never compiled the whole KDE trunk in my life, and filed only a few bugs. they're
most welcome to do whatever they want, and i'll use it as long as it's
convenient for me.
I realise that the semantic desktop is only a small
part of KDE. I like
the rest: plasma, the multitudes of improvements and new features made
to the various individual applications. I like being able to show
multiple folders on my desktop, and I like the changes to the widget
Is there no way I can decouple this? Why do I have to have all this
stuff I'm not going to use? What has happened to my ability to pick and
i haven't tried removing akonadi/nepomuk rpm.s while 'breaking'
dependencies. i suspect that should be possible if one avoids using features, like KDE
PIM, that heavily depend on it. for now it's easier for me to use other windows
managers / desktop environments (awesome, enlightenment) with KDE applications.
And NO I DON"T WANT TO USE GNOME!
me neither. eventually i may have to look around for other basic applications that i like.
for now, for me, KDE 4 apps. are still the best choice.
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