On 2014-06-04 00:42 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-06-03 03:08 (GMT-0400) Dirk Gently composed:
1. systemd doesn't produce ASCII (or for that matter, UTF) log files, it produces binary blob log files.
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Which means you can't just browse through a log file using grep, awk, and/or more (or less).
Or F3 in an OFM, or in such GUI apps as file manager, text editor or web browser.
2. systemd eliminates separate log files... so if you're looking for ntp messages, we no longer have ntp log files... now we have to wade through the whole combined (binary only) logfile
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3. The old time tested method of keeping log files small and maneagble (daily rotation) is now also broken, YATFUBSD...
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But all those are simply false!
I am using systemd, as everybody with openSUSE, and I have plain text logs, which I do browse with grep and the rest. I get separate log files, and I choose how they are distributed. And they are rotated and compressed properly, as always.
Are you sure about the "always" part? # ls -l /var/log # 12.1 47 lines of output http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/varlog121 # ls -l /var/log # 13.1 (upgraded from 12.3) 37 lines of output http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/varlog131
Systemd does generate a binary log of its own, which can be persistent, on disk, or just for the current boot. But nothing impedes you to use a syslog daemon as always.
"Nothing"? Is it enabled by default like the 11.4 way did? I don't know anything about setting up any such thing. I didn't need to.
There have been discussions about which should be the default setting in openSUSE, but so far, I think that syslog is staying by default, and if not, you can easily activate it.
Activate how? Change is not always progress, particularly WRT systemd and things that now depend on it that never depended on Sysvinit. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org