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On Saturday 11 Jul 2009 14:48:22 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 00:47 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
I have used Opensuse now for some years
So have I, it has been the best desktop/workstation OS and environment I've found so far.
since the days of 5.3 in fact and
There never was an openSUSE 5.3; there was a SuSE 5.3 (I think)
Ok SuSE 5.3 same difference
Linux in general well before that since the days of the Early 0.9 kernels all floppy distro no X i also ran Slackware and Red Hat and tested a few more along the way so i know a thing or two about Linux
So did I, started on an i80386SX16 running Iggdrasil. Of course, having used LINUX for a decade or so doesn't automatically give either of our views any merits. This need of having to lay out one's LINUX or Open Source street-cred is really tiring; a claim is valid [or not] on its merits.
But it does give one a sense of the progress made and the present is very poor indeed BTW that goes for 11.1 as well
It has to be said now after attempting to get 11.2 MS2 and 11.2 MS3 to play the game the standards of releases has fallen to a new all time low how on earth have you got the front to call these releases anything other than Alpha at best .
Those are not official releases; of course things are broken. There is broken and there is BORKED
The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing more than a total blight on the system there needs to be a choice for users risk pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system . I know you are going to say Alsa doesn't do this or that but unlike pulseaudio it never failed to work it never chopped the audio
Pulseaudio certainly hasn't been all peaches-and-cream but it does provide real advantages and after updates it works OK on 11.1 (the latest *release*).
Beg to differ it fails completely to make any noise of note, it is as choppy as hell it sounds terrible . All of these systems work perfectly under 10.3 and did right from the very first alpha's so once again a fail.
Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it needs to be a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all With the requisite warning for those that do install it beware it will hog your CPU for excessive amounts of time ,
Seriously? It has been years since Beagle CPU hogged; recent versions have been very stable and consumed minimal resources. The functionality provided is wonderful.
Likewise Nepomuk .
That's a KDE thing, so I don't know anything about it. For good performance and stability use GNOME.
Then we have this whole License thing about codecs and DVD playing software things like DHT as well
This doesn't have anything to do with openSUSE; this is an issue with ALL distributions. But the one-click install well documented on the website solves this problem efficiently.
, People purchase a distro and rightfully so expect to be able to install it bang in a DVD
Who are these "people"? They *purchase* a distro?
This mail is aimed squarley at the Opensuse team who o know will call me for
I'm not on the openSUSE team; but you posted this rant in a public forum.
Posted in public on purpose out here it cant be swept under the rug
everything under the sun plus some it is a two way street don forget i have gripes with quite a few there who's attitudes STINK but i am not interested in them right now , Contray to the comments that will come in from one in perticular a lot of the content of this email will be agreed by a considerable number of people
Perhaps, that number doesn't include me.
Nope your one of the blinker wearers
a lot will keep stum they dont want their name to appear thats ok by me some may just get brave enough to agree fair dincum blue but do not for one moment think i am a one off this world is full of people that think one thing and say another for the sake of not standing out
Claiming to be backed by a silent majority is bogus. That is equivalent to referring to yourself as "we". Your also claiming [and thus insulting] your mysterious majority by claiming they are either lazy or cowards.
SO you calling me a coward now come say that to my face .
There is a lot more i could mention maybe i will shortly but one thing is for sure the situation as of this moment is a total disgrace to the SuSe name and a very poor shadow of it's former good name sort it out people , There is no point being the first ones to release something if it is a complete screwup a little more time in the R&D and less in the sales will work wonders
openSUSE has been the most pleasant and stable desktop I've used yet. And performance is very good.
you obviously thinking back a few releases the last good performer 10.3 boot time in both 11.1 and all 11.2.xx releases is chronic all 11.2 releases so far fail completely to un mount the filing system before shutting down or rebooting and no i have no interest or desire to use any of the ext filing systems reiser and xfs worked faultlessly under 10.3 so why should we expect it to fail under 11.2.xx Pete