On 07/03/2014 04:23 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-07-03 17:05, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 07/03/2014 09:34 AM, michael norman wrote:
I repeat, with properly designed and set up equipment surface noise on vinyl is not an issue.
The 'popcorn' noise due to dust in the groove and minor damage (aka cracks, not least of all in the shellac of 78s) is easily dealt with by modern software.
That's digital filtering or processing.
If you listen to a vinyl disk with a digital tool in the chain, you have broken the rules. It is no longer a purist thing. :-)
Hmmm. I wonder how many vinyl records were manufactured from master tapes that were digital, in recoding studios that were all digital and which did the digital processing to eliminate background noise, such as the stomach rumbles of the musicians :-)
...because digital processing means that you have to digitize the signal,
Whch the studio dcks were doing and storing digitally on disk ...
and sample it at some frequency, same as with a CD.
Well, I suspect in the studio they sampled at a much higher rate than we end up with on the CD. I'm reading about studios remastering old YES tapes at 192-kHz/24-bit so I expect studios were/are recoding at at least 20 bits even though what we get on Cds is only 16 bits. So no, not 'same as a CD'.
Then, we could as well just have a CD. I can not accept comparing a CD to a vinyl replayed with digital processing. Ok, I can, but then saying that "vinyl is a superior technology" is not that true.
"Superior" in what sense? Cds don't make pretty plant pots when melted the way that vinyl does, therefore they are inferior :-)
Ok, we could sample at 1 Mhz. True. We can not adjust the sampling frequency of CDs, but we can with media files, use any sampling frequency and number of bits we decide; CDs are just one currently available standard.
Heck, popcorn and other 1/f noise is inherent in all electronics due to electron fluctuation. Liquid cooled laser amplifiers suffer less than, for example, hot cathode valves.
And some purists prefer valve sound. :-)
There is a market out there, hand manufacturing valves on a room on some house, and selling them via internet.
Yes, I can believe that.
Different people and manufacturers built their amplifiers differently, and differences could be measured, and, depending on quality, easily heard, or not easily heard.
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