I very very seldom ever see a bug fix or an enhancement of a KDE or GNOME specific application or feature. Does KDE and GNOME publish their updates to SUSE or do we have to put up with solved errors until KDE or GNOME release a new version with many many fixes and features added and then wait until SUSE has enough fixes for feature updates to release a new version. I really don't understand why the Enterprise Version can release a service pack update and the open version releases updates which are either security or major bug fixes. Mind you the idea of the Enterprise version releasing a SP that is beta is beyond belief. If we can update the kernel from time to time then surely it would make sense to update a version up until functionally it is impossible. I cannot help but think an enormous amount of man hours is spend on releasing a new version when those hours could be perhaps better spent on fixing bugs and providing enhancements via update. I really don't mean to be critical, or just plain objectionable, however I really don't understand SUSE development cycle and version control. Under conventional version control a new version is released when a massive fundamental change has to be made to the underlying O/S. For example Windows 2000/ME changed to a new release of XP because of the creation of visual themes controlling the display and Netware 2.x changed to 3.x because of install and NLM's and Netware 3.x changed to 4.x because of NDS. Could someone who knows please explain this without being malevolent. Thanks Scott