Hi All A couple of days back there were some comments made as to why SuSE 10.1 was not being accepted by the Windows world as expected. Being an electrical engineer (computer controls) I can recall being on a construction project in a temperature hot third world country and the boss purchased an air condition unit which he had installed in his office which due to improper installation (maybe) immediately cough fire and burned up. Madder than hell he immediately fired the installation electricians, their foreman, and the electrical engineer they worked for. All four were off (physically) the project immediately. Back in the computer world these thoughts are what come to mind with Red Had and SuSE. I can not imagine what Jack (the boss noted above) would do if he had purchased Red Hat or SuSE and attempted to install it on his laptop. Fire the whole IT department? I do not know but I am sure glad that that did not happen while I was working for him. Not likely since that was 30 years ago. Nice guy. Big. Weighed 300 pounds. Former world class weight lifter. Madder than hell about his air conditioning. Back to the subject (above) you can read all about it by reading the article Why Red Hat will go bust because of Ubuntu at: Free Software Magazine http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/editorial_13 As far as SuSE 10.1 is concerned well there are the old issues of: Factory installed win modem not working in IBM laptops even though IBM is one of Linux's biggest supporters Video card and driver not working in same computer et. I am certain this is an agervation to the SuSE development team but in most of the world the principal means of connecting a laptop to the Internet is by dial up modem for the simple reason that laptops move around (that is why people buy laptops to move them from place to place) especially to temporary locations where there is no DSL. Not the same as setting in an office with a T1 line. So no modem means no Internet which means Windows works and Linux does not. Video card not as severe an issue. SuSE 10.1 simply chooses the wrong one. Its is there all one has to do is manually select the right one. Not near the issue of finding the right version of the right program (and that is a big issue in itself one time it took me 3 months to get the right one for a Mandrake distribution as Mandrive had made a few special modifications to the program to make it work correctly) down loading a program, install the program and then making the complete system work and be a computer illiterate. Having all this compiled into a working system is why people purchase boss sets of Linus. So for those who feel we are discussing open source development in the form of say a Debian distribution we are not this is more in the form of a Windows reinstall disk that one purchases. Recall RED HAT and SuSE are commercial products a completely different world than Fedora and OpenSuSE. Quality in the commercial world is being able for an idiot to install the product and make it work. Any way these are some thoughts on why SuSE is going the route of Red Hat. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org