Jim Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:21:37 -0400, Dirk Gently wrote:
Look, Aaron, you have called that member of the KDE4 team a liar in the past. You've been stumping on that (and have been thrown off this list multiple times) for years. (Yes, I knew who I was actually talking to some time ago - your MO is unmistakeable.)
The KDE4 team admitted to it. In fact, they proclaimed it.
So, assuming your assertion is correct, what do you hope to achieve by continuing to bring this up? If, as you assert, they admitted to it, there's nothing more to be done. They "came clean".
So continuing to resurrect that old debate is pointless and counterproductive. They can't undo what they did. They can acknowledge it and move on, which you seem to admit they have done.
It speaks to character -- or in this case, the lack of it. They weren't apologetic -- they were proud of their lies. And they still haven't owned up to the lie that KDE4 was missing KDE3 functionality because it was "written from scratch". You don't have to "rip out code" for desktop icons or anything else, if, as they claimed, they were writing the code from scratch. Nope, that was another lie that Suse employees on the KDE4 team trotted out. And that was still hasn't been acknowledged, even though Aaron Segio's proud cry of achievement (I worked all night and finally ripped the desktop icon code out of the KDE4 codebase) is a smoking gun. And as noted, the KDE4 has been hostile to the KDE userbase, despite obvious problems with the overall concept. There KDE4 developers who, to this day, continue to use KDE3 as their primary desktop. When, after 4-5 years of development, some of the devs still won't "eat their own dogfood" that's a telling sign about what is going on within the dev team. Once again, I remind you, I merely gave the original poster information as to a reasonable expectation as to weather he could ever get a "greyed out" indicator for reduced windows, by giving him insight into the behavior and mentality of the KDE4 team and its leader, Aaron Segio. I would have left it at that, but YOU got your undies in a bunch and threw a hissy fit, dishonestly claiming that I was wrong. If you don't like how this discussion of the low character of the KDE4 organization, and feel that the KDE4 dev team has been dragged through the mud, you have NOBODY but yourself to blame by creating the conditions such that an reasonable person would back up the original claims with more complete expectations. At a campaign speech, one of Harry Truman's supporters once said, "Give 'em Hell, Harry!" Truman replied, "I'm not giving them hell. I'm merely reading the record." The same applies for this thread. if you don't like the subject, then DROP IT, and stop making excuses for the inexcusable, defending the indefensible, and denying the undeniable, like a fool -- because right now, that's all many on this list view you as: a lying, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" fool. If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you consider these gems pf wisdom from Abraham Lincoln: "You can fool some of the people all the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all the time." "It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org