On 18 November 2015 at 08:49, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
In a post in Factory I think I already raised this question about Tumbleweed and asking when it is going to come out of the closet and become a legit openSUSE piece of software. But I don't remember ever getting a response about it.
Judging by the opensuse website, we have two distros: Leap and Tumbleweed, both very legit, both for different audiences.
Correct, I do not understand how anyone can think otherwise now.... we've been saying the "One Project, Two Distros" message now for well over a year..
I also asked - some time ago actually - why there are ever only 'Releases' of TW which are 4.3GB big but there are never, for examples, patches to be applied using 'zypper patch'. Must be a heck of waste of computer resources producing 4.3GB DVDs almost every day.
That makes little or no sense. (I don't use TW myself). To upgrade a TW install, I think you simply have to run "zypper up". "zypper patch" is for applying security updates, I suspect there simply aren't any for TW.
Correct. You are right that users do not need to download the full DVD every single time there is a new TW snapshot. This was explained to Basil but his comprehension seems to be lacking. zypper up is my recommended way of upgrading a TW machine day to day, and will only download the packages which have changed between your installed version of Tumbleweed and the current one. We do actually have an update/patch channel for Tumbleweed, but it is used VERY rarely, for major security issues (shellshock, etc) which need to be published faster than the typical Tumbleweed "Build Everything > Test Everything > Release Everything" process allows. In those cases, you can use zypper patch, but a zypper up will still pull the update from the patch channel alongside any other packages you need to upgrade your Tumbleweed machine So, on Tumbleweed the only viable usecase I can think of for zypper patch would be a security conscious user wanting to do something like a regular cron job doing a zypper patch to protect their machine automatically from the occasional high impact security bugs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org