In /var/log/messages I see Apr 30 11:05:35 BigBoy kdm: :0[2561]: Received unknown or unexpected command -2 from greeter Apr 30 11:05:35 BigBoy kdm: :0[2561]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 1, signal 0 I gogle around and I find https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=113401 Now scroll down to "SOLUTION" I don't know how relevant that is since a) /etc/hosts was 644 b) I don't have a /var/run/xauth *at all* But I'm trying this. OBTW: "messages" aslo reported May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-*-Core] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-*-Greeter] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of key 'Language' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of key 'ShowUsers' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of key 'UseBackground' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of key 'UseTheme' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-:*-Core] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of key 'AllowShutdown' in section [X-:*-Core] of /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc May 1 11:04:22 BigBoy kdm_config[3790]: Multiple occurrences of section [X-:0-Core] in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc. Consider merging them. but it has been doing that for as long as I've been logging .. a few years. -- Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art. -- Tom Stoppard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org