Yes, I now I'm late doing this and it is full of woes. The start-up into X11 has the hourglass spinning for a couple of minutes before the login prompt, and that fails repeatedly. The clue is that in /var/log/messages is 2019-12-01T10:12:52.850103-05:00 MainBox checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 2266! 2019-12-01T10:12:52.851602-05:00 MainBox checkproc: checkproc: can not get session id for process 2266! I don't know what that is. This happens with all possible desktops: KDE, XFCE, Gnome ... ======================================== Logging in with an VT @ F3 and then running xstart I get my KDE to come up, but the system is still crippled. Yes, KDE's bottom bar appears, all the items are in the slots, but mouseover+click does nothing. I can't switch application, can't fire up the gecko menu. Nothing. No clues ==== Of course I've had forceful upgrades of Tbird and FF and lot all my pluings! Oh what an annoyance. Please pardon mis-spelligns and typeos. =================== Mysteriously I get this error message Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading '/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/trash.so'. And it does exist # ls -l /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/trash.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 160176 Jul 16 08:02 /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/trash.so # file /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/trash.so /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/trash.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=f54a37c61b9baf204c9ee7ef09b270b0b7543e11, stripped And trhere is also this Unable to create io-slave. klauncher said: Error loading '/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so'. which means that Dolphin doesn't work, so I can't click on my movies, music document to launch them. ===================================== Finally, before giving me advice that might invovle using zypper ... # zypper refresh zypper: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libproxy.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN9libmodman14module_manager8load_dirENSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEEb I'm dumbfounded and perplexed. =================== # cat /etc/os-release NAME="openSUSE Leap" VERSION="15.0" ID=opensuse ID_LIKE="suse" VERSION_ID="15.0" PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Leap 15.0" ANSI_COLOR="0;32" CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:leap:15.0" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org" HOME_URL="https://www.opensuse.org/" # uname -a Linux main.HOME.SystemI.ca 5.2.14-2.g7f85414-default #1 SMP Fri Sep 13 11:31:46 UTC 2019 (7f85414) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Thunderbird Version 68.2.2 which means ALL my plugins are now incompatible! ================================= I'm going to set out on the adventure of finding out what other applications I have, my banking, databases, multi-media, all are not 'broken' in terms of what I had crafted and configured for 42.3 -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?