On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 4:12 PM, ianseeks <bingmybong@btinternet.com> wrote:
How do you think is actually in the init system? Don't get fooled into thinking the "extras" in the systemd project are actually in the init system itself.
It's not really the extras so much as the other projects that intend to make systemd a dependency(ie Gnome). What if someone releases something better in the future? Then these dependencies would discourage adoption. Its the other higher level software projects that decide to use systemd bits and pieces thereby creating the dependency but the anti-crowd incorrectly say
On Saturday, 15 July 2017 23:50:25 BST Larry Stotler wrote: that systemd forces that dependency.
BSD has to get Cgroups before it can be used anyway.
Most BSDs don't seem to want systemd from what I have seen anyway. They are looking into their own version of a new init system, they cannot use systemd because of the lack of cgroups.
From what I have seen, a lot of people just don't like the devs, LP the least. For all his ranting, in some ways he is as arrogant as Linus is "mean".
This is the main reason, professional jealousy.
I can't comment on that though I have seen many articles about the issues with systemd pro and con. Issues exist for all software, it just gets personal and playground b1tchy by the anti-crowd when LP is involved in the development.
systemd has gone quite a way to reduce fragmentation by providing a standardise way of running on all the distros without each distro having to reinvent the wheel.
Maybe, but we still have hundreds of distros(many unmaintained) compared to the "competition" on the desktop. Seems to be a lot of duplicative effort(but effort that peoplke chose to make). Thats seems par the course for open source, the better ones survive and weak one wither.
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