This is a bit off topic, so feel free to tap Delete now, but i think everyone who uses and writes Free/Open Source Software should take a look at this: http://64.71.152.24/index.html i post it here mainly because of the number of "why won't you answer my question!?!?!" posts, and related immature and unappreciative behaviour which so often pops up here on this list. Reading that page, and the "background" page for that page: http://64.71.152.24/original.html might imbue some appreciation from the non-developers out there who so often DEMAND, without so much as a please or thank you, that FOSS developers solve the users' problems. It will certainly draw some sympathy from fellow FOSS developers who, like Paul, pay for domains and bandwidth out of their own pockets, and offer free support on their own time. :) -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts