On 2018-06-16 02:42, don fisher wrote:
On 06/15/2018 03:46 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-15 11:42, Felix Miata wrote:
Carlos E. R. composed on 2018-06-15 11:20 (UTC+0200):
Common, startx is deprecated since a decade perhaps. Has it uses, yes, but running a desktop and modern apps is not one of them.
AFAIK, without startx I couldn't even do multiple Xorg instances using preset exported user-specific XORGCONFIG configuration at session outset.
Yes, possibly.
However, I can start a second session (different user) from XFCE menu just fine. I have not tried three in years.
But AFAIK startx does not support policykit and that is a problem. There are daemons that are not started, things that fail.
don says he gets this error:
Unable to grab media player keys: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Dbus.Error.ServiceUnKnown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files
rhythmbox is a gnome app, and gnome relies on having a proper display manager doing certain jobs, and startx certainly doesn't do them out of the box.
Thanks for the suggestions. I have looked at man pages for .xinitrc, xinit, startx and more. None of these suggest that they are depreciated.
Of course they won't say. (deprecated, not depreciated. Different verb) deprecated (computing) Obsolescent; said of a construct in a computing language considered old, and planned to be phased out, but still available for use. depreciated simple past tense and past participle of depreciate; reduced in value over time. 2001: Java™ 2 SDK, Standard Edition Documentation, Version 1.3.1 -- "Deprecated" and "depreciated" are not same. "Depreciated" is a financial term that means "lowered value". Although the meanings are similar, classes and methods are deprecated, not depreciated. [2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/depreciated https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deprecated
fvwm2 is listed in Yast2 with no suggestion that it has been depreciated, or is not operational. I read the Change Log and did not see anything that indicated fvwm2 was depreciated or that it would/should not work. So what should my path be? If fvwm2 is a maintained package, shouldn't it be so and is a bug report appropriate?
You can take my word for it, or read back thousands of emails and find references about it. Startx is deprecated, doesn't get full support, lacks modern needed features, like supporting policykit, so something break. Try "rhythmbox" started from gnome or xfce in runlevel 5. Plain simple. Then open a bugzilla and state the results, that it works here and not there, and wait patiently for a solution (that is not using startx). If it doesn't run in gnome in runlevel 5, then report that in bugzilla. Worst problem. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)