Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Nov 24, 2007, at 6:51 AM, Billie Walsh wrote:
Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
Hi everyone,
we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design.
I agree with everyone else. It doesn't need a "complete" redesign. A few tweaks maybe, but not a whole new design. It's functional. It works. And even a NOOB can figure out what the heck does what. I did with my first install of SuSE 9.0, AND without asking any mailing list.
I don't know how competent you were with a computer with SUSE 9.0. I remember using 9.0, and (the QT based YaST, anyway) was exactly the same. The number of YaST modules has gone up, the things YaST can do has gone up, and for a new user it can be very confusing!
SuSE 9.0 was the first time I ever worked on anything other than DOS/Windows. On the other hand I had used about everything from about DOS 3/Windows 1 up through Win ME then XP. My first PC was an 8088XT. My first computer was a TI 99/4A then a CoCo. What the heck is so confusing about "Software" in the left panel and "Software Management", "Online Update", etc in the right. OR, "Hardware" in left panel and "TV Card", Mouse", Keyboard", etc in the right. When you open a module in YaST you get hints in the left panel to what needs to be put in the right panel. IMHO, these could use a little touching up but they are there. It appears to me that just about everything in YaST is pretty much self explanatory.
If someone can't figure out Yast I have two suggestions:
a) Return your computer to where you bought it. They are probably to stupid to own one anyway. b) Stick with Windows. Your computer on training wheels. Besides, Billy will be more than glad to trash your computer for you.
Do you know how much we all hate it when people tell users who are a little confused with Linux to just "run back to Windows"?
I stand by it. If someone is so stupid they can't figure out what YaST>Hardware>Mouse does they are probably to stupid to run a computer in the first place. Either take it back to the store where they bought it or let Windows hold their hand.
The examples on the page looked a whole lot like KDE System Settings with more functionality. If that's what your shooting for, just add modules to System Settings.
That is an idea, but it still doesn't help the 'figuring out which module to use' part.
Yast is, hands down, the best control center for any distro I have looked at.
I agree.
This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control
Center.
Two thoughts:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Here's the thing: YaST isn't broken, since YaST is basically just a container for launching the YaST modules. ON that note, a bunch of icons in a window is perfect! But, a new user might not know where to go to do certain things. This is what is being discussed.
See above. YaST, as a container, is NOT broken. It doesn't need fixing. What could anyone do better than showing an icon that is a picture of what the module you are opening works on and giving it a name that reflects the thing. If the icon is a mouse and it says "Mouse Model" beside it I sorta figure it does something to the mouse. Or, if it's a TV set and says "TV Card" beside it I would expect it to have something to do with configuring my TV Card. I would be surprised as hell if it had something to do with the network management.
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