On Tuesday 26 January 2010 05:57:29 pm Bob Smits wrote:
On January 25, 2010 10:06:43 am Istvan Gabor wrote:
Why do KDE developers think that people who invested a lot of time to learn
how to use KDE3 now will start this learning curve again? I am sure that my parents won't, they will keep using KDE3. Even if it isn't perfect there are no showstoppers in it for most of its users. KDE4 is full of showstoppers.
Yes, it was, and they're getting less and less. I refused to use KDE 4.0 and 4.1, found 4.2 barely usable and can tolerate KDE 4.3 reasonably well on my Lenovo laptop. It isn't nearly as polished as KDE 3.5.10 was, or as reliable and it does not have all the features KDE 3.5 had.
It certainly is now usable, however, and I expect when OpenSuse 11.3 comes out with KDE 4.4 comes out, I'll convert the other 4 computers I run.
And how could it happen that a distribution like SUSE/openSUSE which is/was
(?) famous for its reliability, stability and user friendliness included that buggy, unstable KDE4 as default KDE, and expelled KDE3 to build service?
They like having the newest and latest in the distro to compete with other distros, they didn't realize how unuseable KDE 4 was, especially for power users, nor did they really know how annoyed and frustrated KDE 3.5.10 users would be.
Second, they didn't dump KDE 3.5.10. They left it in until OpenSuse 11.1, and you can still install it with 11.2 although it's more work now.
Why the KDE developers claimed their less-than beta quality product stable
back then, when KDE 4.2 came out? (Now they say that it will be stable, usable at version 4.2 in August.)
I wouldn't blame KDE for OpenSuse switching, in my view, prematurely. And don't you mean KDE 4.4? We're using 4.3.4 now.
I agree with Istvan. I've been using KDE 4.3.95 (devel version of 4.4) and it's getting more stable and functional. And like previous versions (read 3.x) it has returned to certain features, such as being able to switch to the tree view setting in the Control Center/personal settings gui. Other distros have had this since... say, late 4.1, early 4.2. The plasmoids don't crash anywhere near as much as they did in previous version of K4 and are actually functional to a minimum degree one would expect. I still am very frustrated with the lack of config feature to KDE overall, and especially so with the plasmoids. I have had K3 installed always and up until very recently didn't spend much time in K4 at all - basically I'd update the k4 packages and then login to so how well or badly it was coming along. Having a neat features gui/eye candy is all fine and dandy. But, up until lately I really couldn't get a lot of things done in K4 because something would crash and I'd find myself in a quasi init 3 level and have to restart the desktop - which often meant I lost some work in one form or another, not what I would consider prime time/load it on the office PCs ready. I still struggle to see how K4 would be a fit for an office such as a realtor or travel agency, etc, etc... Cheers, Curtis. -- BEWARE! Spammers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Those throwing objects at the alligators will be asked to retrieve them! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org