jdd wrote:
Dan Goodman a écrit :
I run Linux because (unlike Brand X) it doesn't emphasize glitz over functionality.
it doesn't need so long text to say that, and Kde is not Linux.
While I was admittedly long, I hope people read something more than just that out of what I wrote. And to me as a user, it is either Linux with KDE or Linux with Gnome or Linux with something else...in a complete desktop environment. Otherwise in this corporate world, I would use Linux only for admin work, and would have to use another OS for desktop type work.
try puppylinux, for example, and with openSUSE Gnome or Xfce are good
OK, so maybe it was buried, but did you read my comment that I am going with openSUSE in part because of its relationship to the Novell SLE* boxes I work with? But yes, I am open to other alternatives besides SUSE Linux, but once I make that break, at least at work, it becomes a negative both for me and, to a smaller extent, the SUSE user community.
and yes, in opensource world, devs do what they want... like it or leave it
Yes, but also in the opensource world, users are free to express what they like and don't like about tools they have been asked to choose over other tools with similar functionality and/or to complain about the evolution of a tool and discuss why they are changing their tool, and what for. And my central point is that by the heavy-handed way that KDE4 is being rushed onto the scene, and KDE3 being removed from the scene to facilitate that, users are quite likely to leave it (KDE4) if they no longer love it. That, and when that occurs, and it is tightly associated with the distro, it not only creates problems for the tool, but for the users of that distro as well. And if they start to leave en masse, not just KDE4, but the openSUSE distro while they are changing, then the effect of the tool and its coupling with the distro become an issue for the distro users as well as for the tool users. I don't want to leave openSUSE, and I don't want to have to start tweaking it to get it to work the way it used to just because someone wants to hasten the migration off the old version in order to try to gain a better level of use of the new version. That is KDE developer's prerogative to do what they want, but if they no longer meet the need of their users, then not only will their project suffer, but their users, and the users of any tightly coupled tool or distro, will also suffer. And it is from that perspective that I object to the path that KDE has chosen, given its impact on areas outside of KDE that were associated with it under an implicit understanding that even though new things might appear, there would be at least fully functional equivalents of the functionality that was in the old version. As far as I am concerned, the KDE Team has not met this implicit agreement, and they are free to break it if they want. And I am free to point out that as a user I am disappointed at that decision, regardless of the lofty aims they are seeking. -- Dan
jdd
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