Dave Plater composed on 2016-11-28 07:32 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
One man's definition of "ugly" isn't every man's definition of "ugly". Exactly what about the fonts in that image causes you to describe them as "ugly"?
Is the problem only with fonts in web pages?
Are fonts also ugly in other apps and/or in FF and/or Opera UI text?
Which Firefox version is that? 49? 50? 45ESR? Which GTK toolkit was used to build it (find it in about:config)? Which Opera version?
A screenshot with more context would show us a lot more. Maybe an image of http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html surrounded by the rest of the desktop would be telling.
Do note that many web pages do not use fonts installed on your system. Many use "web fonts", fonts downloaded as needed right along with the page's HTML, JS, images and CSS. So, the URI of any page of which complained is prerequisite to attempts to replicate what you see and examine its source. Just knowing you're on KDE on 42.2 on a 20" 1600x900 LCD isn't enough. Once I apply enough magnification to actually see anything in your screenshot the fonts look good to me.
dpi-screen-window.html displays the same in firefox, opera and konqueror. My fonts are blurry and seem out of proportion in firefox and opera but in konqueror they are larger. I have to rush off but I'm going to try Techno Tux's suggestion later. Screenshot from opera, opera and firefox display identical font problems | http://pasteboard.co/k8Xwm30I.png this looks the same in all three browsers.
You didn't answer all questions I asked, your definition of "ugly" in particular, other than the single word blurry. I don't see blurry in either of your shots, only some typical effects of a low-ish pixel density SMB2030 LCD screen (its specs don't provide a dot pitch specification). And, you didn't provide a screenshot like I hoped for. These are more like what I was hoping for: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/daveP-os422K3-1600x1000x096-1.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/daveP-os422K3-1600x1000x108-1.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/daveP-os422K3-1680x1050x108-1.png The differences I see among Konq(v3), Opera (my first use of it since it adopted the WebKit rendering engine), and GTK2-built Firefox ESR 45, are significant, whether I'm viewing live on my 22" 1680x1050 screen, or the images I made, on either my 22" 1680x1050 or my 24" 1920x1200 screen. The primary distinction among them that I see is in Opera's not using the same primary font family as the other two, so it's hard to say whether its denser apparent stroke weights are on account of WebKit's rendering engine, or difference in the font used, or a combination of both. Plus, Opera cannot be made to apply the server's DPI, when it isn't 96, in that page, though it does manage to get the pt size fonts correctly sized, something I've not seen any non-Gecko, non-KHTML browser do in over half a decade. Thus some of the table numbers it produces are inaccurate. Among my three screenshots, I find nothing objectionable about any of the font renderings given the lower than average physical DPI of the screen used for either 1600x1000 (synthesized) or 1680x1050 (native) creation. Your 20" 1600x900 screen, if in fact it measures 20.0", has a calculated physical pixel density of 91.8 DPI. My 22" is 90.1. My 24" is 94.3. Different panels adapt differently to the differences between physical density (very rarely actually 96, or whatever multiple for "HiDPI" screen models) and logical density (typically 96). If you have any opportunity to do so, it might be worth your while to try a screen with higher density before blaming 42.2 for fonts you personally do not like. Average pixel density has been coming up over the years. Those under 96 are becoming more like dinosaurs, while the opposite extreme keeps climbing. It's simply not possible to please everyone while the range of densities and screen qualities are as wide as they are. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org