On Thursday 19 Nov 2009 12:53:19 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 19/11/09 23:12, ne... wrote:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:40, Istvan Gabor
wrote: [...] I don't think that making a working xorg.conf file is that simple. Especially if one does not know exactly which of those many lines does what. If I understand correctly sax2 was removed from 11.2. How can I make an xorg.conf file then from scratch? It would be ridiculous (and also very bad) if the application that could be used for creating an xorg.conf file easily was removed from the distro.
Xorg -configure. Please read up on the Xorg man page.
ne...
ne, how many new users of openSUSE and installing oS for the first time after using...I cannot type the name :'( ... are familiar with the fact to "read up on the Xorg man page".
To them, what the heck is a "man page"?!
I know, and you know, but what about the poor bugger who buys a Linux magazine with openSUSE 11.2 on it and tries to install it but doesn't have his video correctly configured?
OK already, he finally gets to this mail list and asks the question - and he sees your response, "read up.....the Xorg man page". Around the mullberry bush we go....what is "man page"?
And to top it all all off, manuals are written for those people who already KNOW about the subject; manuals are NOT written to provide the novice with the necessary information to resolve his/her query. Known fact in the environment where non-programmers have to deal with programmers - as I did. Look at the "man pages", generally. How many actually give you an example, a clear-cut, simple example(s), which shows "if you want to do this then type this on the command line"? :-)
BC
Well said Basil this has been stated many times before but still you get the read the man page or even worse the RTFM boys offering what amounts to a big fat ZERO when it comes to constructive assistance , This seems to be an side effect of Opensuse these days. Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 13:18 up 11 days 22:44, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.08, 0.03