On 17/07/17 03:20, John Andersen wrote:
On 07/16/2017 09:49 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
This not what I want to read. It's a f***ing rant just any other one, just in an even more unfriendly tone. We are not your children, you are not our legal guardian, and if you were, you should search for some help about modern educational methods.
The problem is, this tyrant, much like the others you mention, does have control of this list and he's just crazy enough that he would burn down the village to save the village.
Well, I would like to make a couple of comments about this.
1. Richard does have a point in that this list is for HELP and not for discussions which could well be taken to offtopic or, as someone suggested, to a new list -- when and if created -- dealing with the topic now being "debated".
2. Having said the above, everyone on this list treats each other as a friend and there will always be some jovial banter between people and this should be allowed and not suppressed. As in the past, people participating in this list keep others in check either privately or in public by posting here some comment about behaviour. (Patrick, are you reading? :-).) I would personally hate to see this list turn into one which Ubuntu had and which was Moderated to such a degree that noone was able to say anything which did not deal directly with a technical issue. In the end that technical list was shut down in the manner that Richard suggested may happen to this list.
3. Unlike one person who claimed that Richard should have made his comment not as the President of the Board but as The Board itself, Richard did the correct thing: he signed his post as the Chairman and stated that he will suggest to the Board _AS A WHOLE_ to take action re his suggestion if necessary and, therefore by implication, that it would be the Board as one unit which would make the decision.
4. While all the lists are owned by openSUSE/SUSE and are therefore privately owned lists, meaning that there are rules which participants of these lists have to follow, the lists are nevertheless represent the Community and without the Community there would be no openSUSE, no Board, and no mail lists.
5. And finally, this list has been active for many, many years and it has survived all these years with many "bun fights" and many offtopic comments/discussions. The current "debate" has already been in the limelight some years ago -- and the mail list survived. Let's hope that this current "debate" about an old subject does not mean the demise of this mail iist nor departure of any of its participants.