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On Saturday 16 August 2008 17:35:51 Michael Roberts wrote:
I have just checked the Automatic Online Update Setup -Yast dialog in the rebooted system - and automatic updates are disabled! Despite the fact that I definitely enabled them as reported above. Does the automatic update run after a reboot even if it is disabled?
I will enable the functionality once again, to see if I can find out when it is getting disabled.
The extract above illustrates ideally how confusing the management of updates is at present. I was looking for the configuration of whatever it is which checks for updates and reports them in the Gnome panel - but unlike everything else to do with updates that is not in Yast but in the System control centre in the Computer dialog. I am not really sure what "Automatic Online Update Setup" is as distinct from whatever it is I am trying to use (of course I assume I could find out...), but I have obviously never used it.
Apart from the entry Software Updates in the System control centre, there are several entries in Yast: Automatic Online Update, Online Update, Online Update Configuration, Software Management (which is where you actually install updates from as far as I can see) and Software Repositories, which determines where we look for the updates (I think?)
Many of these names are very similar and partly obscure the underlying funtionality.
We need a single dialog where the user can see the various update functions at a glance and can configure them in a coordinated way.
When I say "updates" above, I in fact mean "updates, patches and whatever else such things might be called" - any distinction between the various sorts of update and how they are handled is also not really clear from the various user interfaces.
Hey, Mr. Roberts (that's if your the "Roberts" I'm thinking of - best regards to the Dutch courts :P ). LTNS on the list. I was complaining of the same thing and all I get is canned answers. The package management system is not only confusing it's very kludgy IMHO. (but then again, I still miss the original yast1). Not only is this a confusing package system - I'm still confused as to actually how many different "package management" programs there are (yum, smart, etc,,,). Though with 11.0 seem to be whitled down to just libzypp, zypper, and PackageKit. Ironically, the SuSE updater program is tied to kde4 (not kde3 as before) and my experience with kde4 has been less than pleasant - this may explain why the update applet just cycles through check for updates,... it checks for updates, informs you of them, ask for root password and upon receiving the root password, proceeds to check updates again - and round and round we go.... never really installs anything though (kinda defeats the purpose of an update applet?) I wish when they would have had a backup so people could revert to something more stable... Oh well, I not a corporation or client - so Novell likely could care less.... pity really. Best regards, Curtis. P.S. maybe I'll see you on the Unbuntu/Kunbuntu list in the future?! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org