Since installing KDE 3.4.1-a on SuSE 9.1 pro two days ago, when ever I log off I get a Signal 11 crash. "The application (Kicker) crashed and caused the signal 11" How do i determine which application caused this/ Cannot find anything in log and only applications running at the time are on the task bar or system bar. Nothing except Kontact is minunized. tried search on SuSE knowledge base and KDE Bugs. I found nothing but I may have used the wrong words to search on. Also since installing 3.4.1 I no longer have sound on start of KDE . I set everything as per the knowledge base article for 9.1 Sound does work on some games and other programs. In KDE Control Panel, the sound test works fine. Any help wil be appreciated. Thanks -- Russ