On Wednesday 29 October 2008 22:59:13 Larry Stotler wrote:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Anton Aylward
wrote: Is there no dead chicken I can wave to make openSUSE 11.0 revert completely to KDE 3.5 and ave 4.x vanish, some special button, single CLI command ... whatever ?
Nope, and when I complained that KDE4 programs were installed instead of KDE3 ones(like the games and stuff - minor really, but still, I prefer the look and feel of the KDE3 ones), the devs seemed to be suprised.
Also, they have removed SOME KDE3 specific stuff because of conflicts, so you end up having to make use of a couple of qt4 libraries. Which skews the tests that show that KDE4 uses less resources than KDE3. You'd have to go back to 10.2 or 10.3 to do a real comparision.
A little while ago I upgraded my work laptop to 11.0/KDE 4.0.4. I knew that KDE4 wasn't really ready for end users but I was prepared to experiment. Somehow the upgrade from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2 hosed the KDE4 installation to the point where KDE would never load and would constantly drop back to the kdm login screen. So, I logged into KDE3, uninstalled KDE4 altogether and then reinstalled 4.1.2. Never looked back. I haven't started KDE3 on that machine in weeks. Just for fun, I then installed 4.1.2 on my 10.3 machine. Same deal - haven't started KDE3 in weeks. KDE4 definitely does feel snappier (in certain respects) than KDE3/Compiz on 10.3 on exactly the same hardware and with the same video drivers (NVIDIA 100.14.19). In fact, I was thrashing the machine pretty hard earlier today and had the load average over 6.00 (in fact the short term load average was over 8 and edging towards 9), yet the KDE4 desktop was still perfectly responsive. I didn't even know that it was working that hard apart from top telling me. In the same situation, KDE3 would at times become much slower to respond. <flame-proof suit on> So, I guess some steps *are* being taken in the right direction with KDE4, despite the dissenting views. I actually like the new interface (but not the new style menu - I switched back to the classic kde style menu as soon as the install was finished - and recent updates have improved performance even further. I just wish they'd fix the annoying crashes with KMail when deleting messages whilst a background mail check is in progress, or switching folders whilst a delete is still happening (running IMAP). KDE4.1.2 really isn't all that bad (or difficult to learn), unless there is some feature of KDE3 that is really *essential* and still missing. Personally, I haven't found one yet that I haven't been able to do without...I guess it all comes down to what you use your desktop for. Cheers, -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ===================================================