Feel free to send to ajohansson@novell.com instead (or log on to groupwise messenger some time). I will try to find out what's wrong with the
provo
name server
will use that email addy, don't really use messenger ..... though
According to their website it is 9.95 for the gold service which in itself costs 49.95/yr, which is half of what I pay for SUSE when I go into a shop here in NZ. So what is your argument again? 40 dollars only if someone does not have an account ...... I would be happy to pay 50 per annum for updates and additionally 10 dollars for a dvd player. I think I am not the only one, obviously otherwise Linspire would not do it and otherwise we would not charge more than that for our NLD and SLES products and our boxed set in an NZ shop.
I don't know how much it would cost to license it. Linspire could be using it as a loss leader to get people to subscribe to their service. I also have no clue how far it's taken them. The mere fact that they're doing it doesn't mean it's working.
If a tiny financial outfit like Linspire can do it as a loss leader, than I would think that a large corporate like us could even give the player away for free and at we would attract subscribers to our update service or get maintenance for the freely downloaded product ...
But I'd like to be clear about one thing here, I am in favour of including a
licensed player in the box, as long as the price is right. I have been saying that in public for a long time.
Great that I am not the only one ;), maybe we can get something moving into that direction then
All I'm saying is that we need to find out how much it would cost, and show that people are willing to pay that extra price. I think voices from customers would speak loudest, in this case.
Then that is something a market research company should do since whatever voices we come up with, they possibly would not be representing the majority unless some real research is done. All we can do without that is maybe create a petition and pressure on corporate to do some research and get it done. Personally I can only talk about Logic. And Logic says that if product A has X and product B not, and product B claims to be more usable than product A, then it also must have support for X, if usable means being able to do more things with it. If it does not do X then it does less things, making the whole statement of being more usable senseless. Logic often solves things that one could spend thousands on research. In general my office agrees and some people on the list and off the list and if you are actually also in favour, then I don't really see that many people who are against it Schweigen spricht oft Baende :D ...... and honestly who of us wants to go through the trouble of compiling your own kaffeine all the time? Well I used to do it and the dependencies drive you crazy! If I have to do it again, so be it, but I rather pay 10 bucks. And whatever is out there for SUSE 9.3 on apt servers at the moment only supports little and is certainly not a replacement for a proper DVD and other media player. Sorry to drag this one, multimedia support is a crucial issue. So is printing and wireless. All areas where to be the most usable means to be better than others. Cheers Andreas