Ilya Chernykh said the following on 08/14/2010 01:30 PM:
On Saturday 14 August 2010 15:50:09 Anton Aylward wrote:
Of course all of us real computer users know that the ne-plus-ultra of office computing was DOS3.3 and WordPerfect4.2 ...
1. Compare DOS 3.3 with Windows XP
2. Compare KDE3 and KDE4.
Oh, good, you got the analogy! Well actually DOS3.3 was supposed to be compared with Windows 3.1 Windows XP is quite stable and reliable, which is why people didn't want to move to from it. But Microsoft isn't going to roll back from Windows to DOS and we aren't going to roll back from KDE4 to KDE3. No amount of bitching and moaning will make Suse (or other major distributors) give up on KDE4, dump it (aka drop it from the distribution) and tell the KDE developers to go back to work on KDE3. No amount of bitching and moaning is going to convince those of us who are using KDE4 productively and happily that it is broken when our day-to-day experience is that it is not. All you (as a group) are doing with your bitching and moaning and trolling is identifying yourselves as candidates for the killfile, showing that you are trolls who make unreasonable claims that are contrary to the evidence of the mainstream. You (as a group) are marginalizing yourselves and discrediting yourselves. You (as a group) are being obsessional and what's worse you are displaying a shocking lack of sense of humour, which is only exceeded by your intolerance. I had been hoping, Ilya, that your effort with KDE:KDE3 would be positive, but it seems you are still taking time-out to drag everything else (KDE4, OSX, Ubuntu ..) into he mud under the mistaken impression that doing so will convince people, no doubt including content users of those products, that KDE3 is better. How this will be more successful than working on KDE3 and making it a demonstrably better product is beyond my understanding. Of course I'm biased. For some reason KDE4 doesn't crash on me. For some reason I seem to have chose an icon set and other eye-candy that I find pleasing, though most of it is actually the installation defaults. For some reason I like the idea that the whole KDE team is working on fixing bugs and pushing the development further forward. For some reason I like the idea that the KDE team is fronted here by someone like Will Stephenson who has a polite and positive attitude and is respectful even to the KDE3 advocates and has been positive and encouraging about your efforts on KDE:KDE3. If nothing else, if I were a new user coming to Linux and choosing a DM, his calm reassurance would be more convincing than the rabid frothy denunciations of all and sundry that the KDE3 advocates on this list are exhibiting. And you know what? I've just tried the FACTORY. Maybe it is 'unstable' and 'broken' but it sure isn't crashing and it sure isn't 'ugly'. Sorry: when it comes to the test of actually using KDE4 without deliberate malicious intent (such as many Linux users might have when evaluating a Microsoft product) none of the complaints voiced by the KDE3 advocates holds. KDE4 may not be perfect, it may not even be suitable for everyone, but its not the mess the KDE3 advocates claim. Get over it. Stop making fools of yourselves. -- Wherever you see a successful business, someone once made a courageous decision. --Peter F. Drucker -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org