Carlos, et al -- ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % The 03.07.17 at 19:30, David T-G wrote: % % > ...and then Carlos E. R. said... % % > % Then you can remove the hard disk, plug it somewhere else, install, and % > % plug it back. I did that for my 386SX-20... % > % > Not only does that take down my gateway for the time required to install, % > but I have to get another machine into which I can plug the drive. If I % > had that, I'd probably have video, kbd, and cd as well :-) % % Well... even on a home network - is it? I'm unsure if you mentioned it - % or a bussiness production machine, upgrading any critical machine live, % without a backup, is a no-no :-) It is, indeed, a home network, and my plan is to install in an alternate partition rather than touch the existing boot slice, but, yes, it is in a critical spot. I simply suffer from server density deficiency! % % > Makes sense. Tricky to load on a 486, but makes sense :-) % % In my case, I used suse 6.4, which assumes a 386. I only neede to % recompile the kernel for the 386. Suse 8.2 I'm unsure if it assumes a 486 % or a 586 for packages. I think that all of the RPMs I see on my 8.1 are 586 or 686. I also have SuSE 6.1 for anything really old, but it's a pain to have to go and compile everything so I just won't go out and get any 486s any time soon! % % > With lilo it's easy to set up a serial console (I even contributed % > changes to the doc that comes with the kernel, though I don't think they % > were ever included *sniff*). % % Good to know I wasn't mistaken. Yep. % % > I don't know if the SuSE disks support it, % > but without a CD drive from which to boot (not to metion the adventures % > of makign it boot from CD instead of from the hard drive) it's a moot % > question anyway. % % You might boot from a diskete, and tell it to use an ftp source. No floppy, either :-) Didn't even think to mention that one... % % % > /me wonders if someone could just build a basic system, tar it up, and % > send it on for me to spit out and then update via yast... % % Now, that is not an absurd idea! Thank you :-) That's actually, although from LFS, how this system was first built. I just don't want to have to keep compiling the world when I want to add nfs support or an http server or whatever, much less staying ahead of security patches. I want Y.O.U. :-) % % You could perhaps make a minimun install on _any_ machine, and then copy % everything by ftp there. Just make sure to use the appropiate kernel, and % to adjust lilo as needed. Yep. My bet is that it shouldn't take more than 100M, and maybe as little as 50M. % % Of course, you always need another machine. As long as you don't try to % install X, it will be fine. Or it should ;-) Yeah :-) % % But don't count on me to tar it up for you! X-) I don't have the % bandwidth, anyway. Oh, phooey. Well, at leat the idea is out there now... Anyone care to install a 586 or 686 (it's a Celeron 550) with a Tulip network driver and enough YaST to talk to an nfs server (my laptop)? I can give you a place to drop the tar.bz2 file, of course. % % % -- % Cheers, % Carlos Robinson Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) davidtg@justpickone.org * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) davidtgwork@justpickone.org -- Mary Baker Eddy, "Science and Health" http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!