jdd wrote:
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Unfortunately they then loose security updates when they do this.
Since supplementary contains usually the newest versions, this is not a real issue.
as always, if you begin this you _must_ continue upgrade any version. In a production system, this seems a very bad idea. so if people ask for this, the only answer is: don't do so.
I can understand one needs the very last kdenlive, because this is very new app, but what about Kde???
Come spend some time on IRC and see what people are actually asking for.
*Most if not almost everyone* over there wants and installs the latest
KDE packages from KDE supplementary.
KDE 3.5.2 has a lot of bugfixes compared to 3.5.1.
As of SL 10.0, the difference is even bigger: 3.5.x is a *lot* faster
than 3.4.2. Frankly, on 10.0, I'd recommend anyone to upgrade to 3.5.x
(unless it's a server and you don't care about the desktop in the
first place).
Answering "don't do so" would be stupid IMO.
We do point them out to the fact that it's unsupported and merely
provided by convenience, and that they won't get Online Updates for
those packages, but as Marcus and I pointed out, the record until now
has been very good wrt that (at least for KDE supplementary): it's
always the latest version and I've even seen major bugfixes and
security fixes being provided in that repository as well.
People are very aware of those facts when they choose to upgrade to
KDE 3.5.2 and it's not turning them off in any way.
I'm very aware of the "featuritis" syndrome, but as far as guerrilla
marketing is concerned...
You might not think that way, and neither do I nor most people on this
list, but from what I've seen on IRC (and I'm on #suse and #opensuse
every night), I think that many potential SUSE Linux converts who come
asking for information about the distribution would likely rather use
another (e.g. kubuntu) than staying with KDE 3.4.x. At least that was
the case for SL 10.0.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's really my impression.
Before making assumptions in your black box, come out and look what
users are asking for. They want it, and so do I, and we're fine using it.
The fact that this works is of course mostly due to the fact that the
KDE packagers in Nürnberg (Cornelius Schumacher and Stephan Binner)
are fast and reactive to provide packages in the KDE supplementary
repository.
Unfortunately, and as discussed in another thread, that's not the case
for the supplementary GNOME repository, and generally we (on IRC)
recommend rather not to use it or, if so, with great care, as we've
seen it blow up quite a few desktop setups.
Hopefully it'll get better :)
cheers
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