On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:16:25 pm John Andersen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Rajko M.
wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 12:14:41 pm John Andersen wrote:
Scott Newton wrote:
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 18:26:34 Fred A. Miller wrote:
... Amazing...a feature of KDE for a LONG time, and VERY much used feature (common sense dictates you gain real estate on the desktop) and it wasn't included in 4.0. No wonder we're missing features.
Just out of interest I never use. It irritates me no end. Which just goes to prove everyone is different.
Which means what?
It is not used by many. I share Scott's sentiment. For me is useless.
Isn't this just another backhanded justification of leaving things out? You don't use it, so nobody needs it?
If you would code something out of your interest, not because someone hired you to code what he wants, what features you would include first?
Who paid these Devs to code that feature in KDE3?
It seems that you missed point in my last sentence: If you code for you pleasure, what you will code first?
There was enough interest in this feature (and many others) for the developers to include it Some were long sought after features for small screens. With the return of netbooks, this feature may well be in demand again.
Agree, but that particular feature is far behind many others that developers use.
The point is: Somebody wanted it, nothing got coded just for the fun of it, and things that were irritating or bad ideas have long since been removed, usually by popular demand.
Majority of guys that created any KDE did that for fun of it. When they run out of what can be considered their own itch, than comes popular demand as source of inspiration.
There is a great deal of accumulated knowledge real world proof of concept in these facilities. You shouldn't just throw this stuff away.
I agree that knowledge should be used and improved, no need to reinvent the wheel, but new hardware can do things that no one would suspect possible 7-8 years ago, why not to use that too? Problem is that KDE has no usability labs and teams of experts that will perform research, write specifications, check what features are implemented, and what is still in a queue. KDE developers must go the current path. Ask users what they want, tell them where to write requests, ask for patience until they catch up with requests, include new features, listen for comments and bug reports, ask for patience until problems are solved, and so on. Complaining time and again "why so early" will not help. It is early released because it is opensource development model, where it is expected that user feedback will help to create features and clean up bugs. For instance Dotan want to keep an eye on requested features and its implementation, all he needs are requests. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org