And I can't understand why you presume to assume it is okay to speak for the rest of us. I've been watching this altercation between you and Carlos and you both are free to speak your opinions however you see fit.
Bryen, Give me a break, give all of us a break. Stop this popularity contest, and rebel student attitude, mr yuppie/anarchist/hippie revolution. The point here is simple, some people misunderstood the topic, others pointed it, now just because people like you and others have too much ego and you just cant say you are wrong and move on, you come with this attitude "oh dont criticise me, oh dont speak for me, oh Im so free, oh I wont stop because you cant tell me what to do, lalalalala".
But I find it offensive that you have seen fit to say "all have agreed" and that speaks volumes that you have assumed to speak on my behalf. Please, express your opinions and statements as your own, not as mine.
Big cup of grow up for you both.
Some of us think that this has been a good and interesting debate and do not consider this as a mess. And some think the opposite. However, you
Its a mess in the exact measure that the topic drift in complete offtopic and the guy from the original post will not even be able to find the infomation, and he will be frustrated having to search tru all this mess of offtopic. I know I would. There are two things there are facts, and you cant claim they arent: i) this thread is a mess ii) the original topic was about redesigning the control center not yast, its written in the first email. Discussing if this is or is not the topic is like discussing if the water is wet, or if the sky is blue
are free to have the opposite opinion. But please, please... do not speak on my behalf again. Your constant bickering with Carlos is what has made this thread grow even longer.
Protest just for the sake of protest is silly. Stop this "oh I defend the freedom and ideals and love and mankind development". The point here is not human rights, censoring and freespeech, so stop the drama. And since I know you will ask in another mail whats the point, I will answer: the point here is having people use a bit of common sense to make things move, instead of having their huge ego in the way, just because somebody called his/her attention, or because one cant admit he is wrong or one cant pass one answer in a thread, just because he needs deeply to show off how l33t/old-school/long-time-linux-user/uber-admin in the list. And lots of people did exactly that in this thread, and yes it is a big mess, and by now its almost a waste of time. At the beginning it went offttopic discussing the design of a how yast would be re-written. Then after some show-offfs of people showing how this should be done, it went to remote access, translation of manuals to french, metadiscussing if the topic is about design or not, then about defining what is design. Now that people pointed out its way offtopic, you started with the new topic of saying you can speak whatever you want, just because you are not sensible enough to see its destroying the topic. I cant see whats next... And I will not reply, because I see some people would like this shit to go on forever, because you dont give a damn about the damn redesign. You only give a damn about your cool factor, your "internet image", and defending the rights of people to say anything. Too bad nobody gives a damn about getting things done or make opensuse is better. Its always about me, me and me, and my ego, and doing whatever I tell people to do, because oh I am so good. And yeah, you can say Im rude. Marcio -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org