-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Damon Register wrote:
You did not read nor did you follow Stefans helpful comments, especially https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=338930#c11
So if you were not helpful, why do you expect us to be so? I am interested in this thread because I have an ATI card but haven't yet installed 10.3 on the PC that has the ATI card. I tried reading
Marcus Meissner wrote: the above link but I don't follow it well. Am I correct in understanding that the greyed out 3D selection will not be fixed because he is using an unsupported driver? Didn't he say that the same happens with the driver included with the distribution?
The problem here is that there are two issues. The first is the greyed out 3D button in SaX2. The second is the lockups. The first is the result of not using the openSUSE package. SaX2 depends on information that the openSUSE RPM provides, but the homespun ATI RPM doesn't. It doesn't know if the card supports 3D, so it doesn't offer the option. The second is, unfortunately, a problem that openSUSE developers don't have the ability to fix. This is one of the problems with using proprietary binary-only drivers. We don't know what the driver is doing and so we can't debug it. Even in cases where the problem isn't graphics related at all, we'll usually decline to debug kernel lockups when fglrx or nvdia are loaded. This case is especially clear since it's directly related to the graphics driver itself. We don't have the source so we can't fix it. Since you've been able to reproduce it with ATI's driver directly, please report the problem upstream to ATI. All Novell can do is what we've already been doing: Convince ATI to release specs and open source drivers. To address Damon's concerns, I'm sure we'd be hearing many more complaints if ATI drivers simply didn't work at all on openSUSE. I have a ThinkPad t60p with an ATI chip and it's working for me. - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHMJWuLPWxlyuTD7IRAuAdAJ4ms3ZYtqdanSD7sc2LYnAr0BbXWgCfUpyw bIiq4WsOp5QTZuoVJrqmZWo= =i0dv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org