Charles Griffin wrote:
--- Anders Johansson <andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net> wrote:
Again, I do not care about the bully orthodoxy, to
On Thursday 25 April 2002 14:22, Anon. Coward wrote: prove anything.
Have you read any books by Martin Gardner? If you haven't let me recommend to you (and others) Fads and fallacies in the name of science. Another is Science - good bag and bogus.
While they're not strictly on topic here they do make a brilliant read, and give an insight into the mind of the pseudo-scientist.
One thing you'll learn from reading those books is how the pseudo-scientiscs handle themselves in an argument. A common feature is that their arguments consist of two parts: one true, moderately easily checked and verifiable, thus lending credence to the other part which is generally filled with very complex, frequently made-up, technically sounding words that don't mean anything.
Another feature is when the opponent refuses to believe the - ofter preposteruous - conclusions, and that is screaming about "orthodoxy". This word, outside the religious world, is most frequently used by pseudo-scientists to characterize their opponents. The idea is to compare themselves in the minds of the laymen unqualified to look through their arguments to such scientific rebels such as Einstein and Galileo; after all, weren't those greats also ridiculed by their contemporaries.
The big difference of course is that Einstein and Galileo backed up their arguments by falsifiable statements and were prepared to admit if they were wrong (it happened).
For examples of this in the current computer world see Steve Gibson - and Mr. Coward.
regards Anders
FWIW, when I tried to install SuSE 7.3 on my second hard drive (a Maxtor), which had been subjected to three or four other distro installations, it just wouldn't install. It kept hanging at various points during the installation. So, I went to the Maxtor website, downloaded their little low-level format program, and proceeding to perform a low-level format on the troublesome drive.
The next time I tried to install 7.3, it worked flawlessly. Now, I don't know if the low-level format utility did the trick, or if it was just a coincidence, but I do know that when I get around to trying 8.0, I'll be firing up that little Maxtor utility.
Just my $0.02.
Many hard drives grow errors with use. The low-level format generally finds these "bad spots" and adds them to the "so called" grown defect list. This makes the space unseen by the higher-level reads/writes. This is very normal. These Grown errors happen for many reasons ranging from poor manufacturing proceses to defects in material used. The drives made today are much less likey for this to happen but it still does and should still be considered normal. Mark