I've used SuSE Linux since version 4.4.1 that I got in October 1998. I've been on this list since about that time, maybe 2000. I don't really remember. Today I am on more than 60 email lists and I own 4 and help with 5 or 6 others. When I joined this list, it was a great list. I could ask a question and in a few minutes get good help. I could also pass on help where I had learned something. But that time is over. Today there are only a very few people that help. One person that stands out is Per. There are a couple of others. To Per and these others, I say thank you. Today most times when I (or others) ask a question, if they are lucky its just ignored or if very lucky get some help. But mostly its "google is your friend", complaints about sigs, or silly flame wars. Many times I've thought that I could answer questions for someone, but didn't due to the "google-guy" or "sig-guy". I knew that no matter what, there would be one of these typess to explain why I was wrong (to put it nicely): I have found that I can get as good, many times better help on Lew's Off-Topic List. Yes, we get into shouting matches there, but it has never went to depths it has here. So the bottom line, is that this list has got to the point I can no longer stay on it. It would be nice if the list owner would fix it, but I don't see it happening. JIM -- Check out my stamp & postcard collection! Yankee GO HOME! Anti-US Propaganda on stamps, postcards, envelopes, and labels http://yankeegohome.18-t.com/ Check out my online Delcampe store http://www.delcampe.net/stores/warthogbulletin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org