Having spent a night fresh-installing 8.0, I've got a bit of questions, and a few gripes (feedback?). If any of these questions have better addresses to be sent to, happy to hear about them. 1. [skip this, a friend solved why I couldn't find ndbm.h, OTOH, it sort of fits with 3. below] 2. What was the logic behind leaving out locate? To many people frightened by grinding disc noises at night? 3. I really had thought that 'default with office' from the 'Pro' version would at least install gcc, make, libtool, etc. IIRC, it always had that behavior for me on 6.4, 7.0, 7.1... Pretty standard development tools. Having to go back and do those and many more 'by hand' was not nice. What is the concept towards this? Personal == "joe desktop user", Pro == "J Random Hacker"? Such was my impression, based on prior experience with the distro. 4. I'd love to whine about the dearly departed rc.config, yast1, etc., but ok. You had good reasons (LSB, others). Sigh. You folks _do_ realize stuff like that is what makes users/admins especially loyal, right? 'nuff said. On the good side, I get rather a kick out of the frambuffer on tty1. Feels strange typing 'startx' while I'm already looking at a pretty picture. :-) Also, I'd swear the machine feels noticeably snappier. I'm not sure if this is X4.2 (?), the SuSE (aa patches applied) kernel, both, neither. But its certainly nice. Michael -- Michael Fischer Happiness is a config option. michael@visv.net Recompile and be happy.