Rajko M. wrote:
... Which is the reason I don't like posts that repeat time and again, seldom substantiated, "I'm not happy". They bring openSUSE users, that have no time to play and explore options, in that metal state where they believe that something is forced upon them.
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Seldom substantiated? You want me to make a list of all the difficulties that I can still remember having when I went from 10.3 to 11.1 and tried to install KDE3 and KDE4, so I could experiment with KDE4 and still use 3 until I was comfortable with the new interface. Now I can't even get them entirely off my machine (unless I reinstall, I guess)...KDE dependencies are such that zypper keeps wanting to add some other part of KDE in when I try to delete parts of it, in what at least *seems* to be based on an arrogant assumption that if I am removing one version, then I must want to switch to the other KDE version or to a different architecture. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Why do their need to be so many hooks between KDE and other apps, also? And I reject your argument that we who don't work on KDE, when we voice our frustration, are the cause of the majority of the frustration that is heard, because we induce it in others. I suppose all of us were induced into this state of frustration, and there never was any set of users who were genuinely upset. Just the type of arrogance that I am referring to. I am not saying that the developers are arrogant because they don't do what I want just because I want it -- I am saying that they appear arrogant because they always dismiss anyone with a complaint as being uncommitted, and being the true source of the repeated frustrations of other users, driving them away by not jumping on the bandwagon, in order to convince more users. Or should we start a thread "Real Problems I have with KDE4 and the Reasons They are a Problem to Me", and lets see what comes out of the woodwork. Maybe we could even get that Slashdotted, so we would have a really wide sample...or are we supposed to shut up until the developers are ready for us, because by questioning them we are destroying their efforts to succeed by their own lights? -- Dan Goodman Senior Systems Administrator -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org